Minutes - CAC - 2023-03-08COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
MARCH 08, 2023
CAC Members present
Cindy Brenneman, Rosemarie Chora, Dickie Fernandez, Dean Fisher, Elodie Katz,
Sue Lester, Michael Tou, Annette Watson
CAC Members absent
Jeff Arbour, Daniel Baume, Judy Gielow
Board Members present
Arlene Schafer
Mike Scheafer
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Noelani Middenway (District Clerk & Public
Information Officer), Gina Terraneo (Management Analyst II), Mark Esquer
(District Engineer)
Others present
None
Meeting called to order at 6:02 P.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Call to Order
Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) Chair Katz called the meeting to order at
6:02 p.m.
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Procedural: 2. Roll Call
District Clerk & Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway, conducted
roll call. She noted that CAC Members Brenneman, Chora, Fernandez, Fisher,
Katz, Lester, Tou, and Watson were present, while CAC Members Arbour,
Baume, and Gielow were not present.
Procedural: 3. Public Comments - Speakers will be limited to three minutes. The
three minutes per speaker time allotted may be extended for good cause by a
majority vote of the committee.
CAC Chair Katz opened public comments. Hearing none, she closed public
comments.
B. ITEMS
Action: 1. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of
January 11, 2023
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting
minutes as presented.
CAC Chair Katz introduced the item.
Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting minutes of
January 11, 2023 as presented.
Motion by Michael Tou, seconded by Dean Fisher.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 6-0-2-3
Ayes: Cindy Brenneman, Rosemarie Chora, Dean Fisher, Elodie Katz, Michael
Tou, Annette Watson
No: None
Abstain: Sue Lester, Dickie Fernandez
Not Present: Jeff Arbour, Daniel Baume, Judy Gielow
There was no discussion.
Action, Receive and File: 2. Determine the Feasibility and Provide
Recommendation Regarding of a Biomass Conversion Project
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Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files this
report.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, presented report details. He stated that the
project would result in significant increases in trash rates. He noted that the
current costs for biomass conversion outweigh the expected benefits. He
added that the District may reevaluate this technology if CalRecycle amends
their guidelines to allow for higher diversion credit from biomass
conversion.
CAC Member Tou asked who proposed the idea for biomass conversion.
Mr. Carroll stated that CR&R proposed this option.
CAC Member Tou asked how much trash rates would increase to implement
this technology.
Mr. Carroll stated that he does not know the exact dollar amount, but it
would have a significant impact.
CAC Chair Katz asked how this technology would divert plastic waste.
Mr. Carroll stated that the process depends on the type of converter.
CAC Chair Katz asked if this option would replace CR&R's organic conversion
process at its Anaerobic Digestion (AD) Facility.
Mr. Carroll stated that biomass conversion would supplement CR&R's AD
operations.
President Scheafer asked if the South Coast Air Quality Management District
(AQMD) has provided regulations for biomass conversion technology.
Mr. Carroll stated that the air quality district overseeing San Bernardino
supports this program.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
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Action, Receive and File: 3. Receive and File 2022 Annual Performance
Measurement Report
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files this
report.
Mr. Carroll provided an overview of the Performance Measurement
Program and presented the 2022 Annual Performance Measurement Report.
He shared highlights of the report's data pertaining to sanitary sewer
overflows (SSOs) and staffing. He discussed inflow/infiltration (I/I) in the
sewer system, the District's experience modification (EMOD) rate, and
CR&R's service levels.
CAC Vice Chair Lester asked how many days are factored into the District's
EMOD rate. She explained industry standards within human resources and
inquired about the District's safety program.
Mr. Carroll stated that Administrative Services Manager, Dyana Bojarski,
manages the District's safety program, risk management, and safety
committee. He noted that the injuries experienced by staff are highly
avoidable.
CAC Vice Chair Lester asked if the District awards employees for being safe.
Mr. Carroll shared that one person from District staff is recognized each
month for working safely.
CAC Vice Chair Lester recommended awarding District staff for having no
safety incidents with a staff lunch. She noted that issues may arise with
insurance providers and workers' compensation adjusters approving work
returns.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District's insurance provider is the Special
Districts Risk Management Authority (SDRMA) and shared that President
Scheafer is an SDRMA Board member.
President Scheafer commented that SDRMA contracts with a third -party
administrator who handles workers' compensation claims. He provided
details of the claims process.
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CAC Chair Katz asked if the performance measurements report is available
on the District's website.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that this report and previous reports are posted on
the District's Transparency webpage.
CAC Member Chora asked when the next EMOD rate will be available.
Mr. Carroll stated that it will be available next year.
CAC Chair Katz inquired about the SSO incident on 19th Street that occurred
on August 8, 2022.
District Engineer, Mark Esquer, described the incident and noted that it was
a grease related SSO that reached the storm drains.
CAC Member Chora asked if a cost recovery is issued for private spills.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that property owners are invoiced for private SSOs.
CAC Chair Katz asked how the District reduces inflow and infiltration (I/I).
Mr. Esquer shared that District staff plugs and seals key manholes in areas
prone to flooding. He shared that the District recently performed work with
the Orange County Fairgrounds to reduce I/I. He added that the District is
focusing on issues near the Indus Pump Station that are impacting I/I levels.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 4. Receive and File Capital Improvement Plan Update
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files this
report.
Mr. Esquer provided report details. He discussed Project #324 Brick Manhole
Rehab Project. He shared that the District's landscaping project has a pre -bid
meeting next week.
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CAC Member Ferndndez inquired about the methods used for the Brick
Manhole Rehab Project.
Mr. Esquer stated that a fiberglass reinforced liner was used for the project.
CAC Member Ferndndez inquired about the Calcium Removal Phase 1
Project.
Mr. Esquer stated that a chain flail spinner was used to remove calcium
deposits. He noted that the method was successful and will be used to clean
more 8-inch pipes. He stated that the calcium deposits may be related to
groundwater in the clay pipes. He proposed that the District will be cleaning
about 150,000 feet per year for the next three years to remove all calcium
deposits.
CAC Member Tou asked about a timeline for Project #309 City Manhole
Project.
Mr. Esquer stated that there is no timeline and described the project's
challenges and plans. He noted that there have been no additional costs due
to the project delays.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Discussion: 4. Discuss Proposed Roll -Out for 3-cart system for
compliance with SB 1383
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee provide comments and
feedback.
Mr. Carroll introduced the item.
Management Analyst II, Gina Terraneo, provided report details. She
discussed the goals, distribution strategies, budget, timeline, and
performance measures of the communications plan.
CAC Member Tou stated that he can assist the District with the three -cart
rollout by sending out e-alerts.
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CAC Member Chora inquired about the two trash cart tags/hangers.
Ms. Terraneo stated that the District will be working collaboratively with
CR&R to develop outreach materials regarding source separation. She noted
that the cart tags/hangers will also be used to address cart contamination
and other specific issues.
CAC Member Chora stated that customers who do not have social media will
receive a limited amount of outreach education. She asked if the cart lids
will have labels detailing how to separate waste.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that the trash carts lids will have informational
stickers.
President Scheafer shared that CR&R will be placing a sticker on the
recycling carts informing customers to break down their cardboard boxes.
CAC Member Chora asked how often the District is requesting proposals for
outreach assistance.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District performed a request for proposals (RFP)
three years ago for assistance with public outreach. He noted that, according
to the Operations Code, the District's contract period with vendors is five
years.
Discussion followed regarding the three -cart system.
CAC Chair Katz asked if CR&R will be performing the knock -and -talks for the
District.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that CR&R will be performing that outreach.
Discussion followed regarding public outreach with the local schools.
Ms. Terraneo stated that the District will be distributing flyers through
Peachjar.
Discussion followed regarding cart lid issues.
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CAC Vice Chair Lester recognized the District for their Senate Bill 1383
discussion points at the recent City/Districts Liaison Committee meeting.
CAC Chair Katz asked if the plan's outreach will be covered by the CalRecycle
grant.
Mr. Carroll stated that some of the grant's funds will be used for the
communication plan. He noted that the grant ends next year.
CAC Member Watson inquired about program compliance.
Mr. Carroll explained that customers who do not properly sort their waste
will be fined for contamination. He stated that the District will provide
education materials and multiple warning notices prior to issuing fines.
CAC Member Chora suggested promoting a source separation system within
a home so that it is easier for customers to dispose of their waste in the
proper cart.
Ms. Terraneo stated that the District will be making new outreach videos
demonstrating how to properly sort waste.
There was no further discussion.
C. CLOSING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Committee Member Comments
CAC Chair Katz mentioned that tonight's meeting is the last meeting of the
2021-2023 term. She encouraged members to reapply for the committee. She
inquired about CAC term limits.
Mr. Carroll thanked the 2021-2023 CAC members for their service and
contributions. He stated that District staff is drafting a policy to revise the
CAC term limits.
CAC Vice Chair Lester commented that CAC term limits were previously
discussed at a Board meeting two years ago.
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Mr. Carroll clarified that the CAC Handbook needs to be revised and
approved by the Board.
CAC Vice Chair Lester commented that the District does not have term limits
for Board members.
CAC Chair Katz stated that it has been a pleasure to serve on the CAC.
There was no further discussion.
Procedural: 2. Board/Staff Comments
President Scheafer commented that he has requested a joint meeting
between the Board and the CAC to review discussion topics.
Mr. Esquer shared that District staff is available to provide facility tours for
the CAC.
Ms. Terraneo shared that the District's new kitchen pails are available for
CAC members.
Vice President Schafer commented on the three -cart system. She expressed
support for a joint meeting between the Board and CAC.
CAC Chair Katz thanked President Scheafer and Vice President Schafer for
attending CAC meetings.
CAC Chair Lester recognized the CAC, Board, and District staff for their hard
work and input.
No discussion.
Procedural: 3. Adjournment
CAC Chair Katz adjourned the meeting at 7:07 p.m. and stated that the next
CAC meeting is scheduled for May 10, 2023.
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Elodie Katz
Citizens Advisory Committee Chair