Minutes - CAC - 2021-05-12COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
MAY 12, 2021
(TELECONFERENCE MEETING VIA ZOOM)
NOTE: THIS MEETING WAS CONDUCTED UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION
54952.2 AND THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN EFFECT WAIVING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT
SECTION.
CAC Members present
Cindy Brenneman, Dickie Fernandez, Jeff Arbour, Judy Gielow, Mike Corcoran,
Seth Greiner, Elodie Katz, Sue Lester
CAC Members absent
Andrew Nielson, Daniel Baume, Phil Marsh
Board Members present
Arlene Schafer
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Noelani Middenway (District Clerk & Public
Information Officer), Kaitlin Tran (Finance Manager), Mark Esquer (District
Engineer), Gina Terraneo (Management Analyst II)
Others present
None
Meeting called to order at 6:02 P.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Call to Order
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Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) Chair Katz called the meeting to order at
6:02 P.M.
Procedural: 2. Roll Call
District Clerk & Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway, conducted
roll call. She noted that CAC Members Arbour, Brenneman, Fernandez,
Gielow, Greiner, Katz, and Lester were present while CAC Members Baume,
Marsh, and Nielson were not present. CAC Member Corcoran joined the
meeting at 6:33 P.M.
Procedural: 3. Public Comments - Speakers will be limited to three minutes. The
three minutes per speaker time allotted may be extended for good cause by a
majority vote of the committee.
CAC Chair Katz opened public comments.
Ms. Middenway stated that no written comments were received for the CAC
to review.
Hearing no members of the public wishing to speak, CAC Chair Katz closed
public comments.
B. ITEMS
Action, Discussion: 1. Appoint a Chair and Vice Chair
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee appoint a Chair and Vice
Chair to serve for a term of two years ending March 2023.
Ms. Middenway provided an overview of the CAC Chair and Vice Chair
positions.
CAC Member Lester nominated CAC Member Katz for the position of CAC
Chair.
CAC Member Gielow expressed support for CAC Member Lester's
nomination.
CAC Member Katz opened the item to discussion and other nominations.
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CAC Member Lester complimented CAC Member Katz on her performance
and noted that she has been on the committee since its inception.
Motion: To appoint Elodie Katz as CAC Chair to serve for a term of two years
ending March 2023.
Motion by Sue Lester, second by Judy Gielow.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 6-0-1-4
Ayes: Cindy Brenneman, Dickie Fernandez, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner,
Elodie Katz, Sue Lester
No: None
Abstain: Jeff Arbour
Not Present: Daniel Baume, Mike Corcoran, Phil Marsh, Andrew Nielson
CAC Chair Katz requested nominations for the position of CAC Vice Chair.
CAC Member Brenneman nominated CAC Member Lester for CAC Vice Chair.
CAC Member Gielow noted that CAC Member Lester has served on the
committee for a long time, that she is knowledgeable, and that she can
support the CAC Chair.
Motion: To appoint Sue Lester as CAC Vice Chair to serve for a term of two
years ending March 2023.
Motion by Cindy Brenneman, second by Elodie Katz.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 6-0-1-4
Ayes: Cindy Brenneman, Dickie Fernandez, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner,
Elodie Katz, Sue Lester
No: None
Abstain: Jeff Arbour
Not Present: Daniel Baume, Mike Corcoran, Phil Marsh, Andrew Nielson
There was no further discussion.
Action, Discussion: 2. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting
Minutes of March 10, 2021
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting
minutes as presented.
CAC Chair Katz presented the item.
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Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of
March 10, 2021 as presented.
Motion by Sue Lester, second by Cindy Brenneman.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 6-0-1-4
Ayes: Cindy Brenneman, Dickie Fernandez, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner,
Elodie Katz, Sue Lester
No: None
Abstain: Jeff Arbour
Not Present: Daniel Baume, Mike Corcoran, Phil Marsh, Andrew Nielson
There was no discussion.
Action, Discussion: 3. Preliminary Biennial Budget Review for Fiscal Year 2021-
22 and Fiscal Year 2022-23.
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee provides comments
and/or suggestions regarding the proposed preliminary Biennial Budget for the
Fiscal Years 2021-22 and 2022-23.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, introduced the preliminary budget and
described the two-year budget process.
Finance Manager, Kaitlin Tran, presented the preliminary budget. She
reviewed Attachments A and B of the staff report, which contain detailed
line items within each revenue and expense account. She discussed the
Salaries and Benefits and Operations and Maintenance expense accounts for
administrative and field staff. She reviewed the Professional Services
expense account and identified new items, such as the community survey,
Wastewater Rate Study, and Senate Bill (SB) 1383 compliance measures.
CAC Vice Chair Lester inquired about the 2020 census results and costs
related to redistricting.
Ms. Tran noted that there is a line item in the budget related to redistricting.
Ms. Middenway noted that. there is a line item under Public
Info/Edu/Community Promo for the District Voting Divisions Awareness
Campaign, but this does not include the cost to hire a demographer.
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Ms. Tran confirmed that the District has not budgeted for a redistricting
consultant.
Mr. Carroll stated that District staff needs to consult with District Counsel
about the need for a demographer. He noted that the 2020 census data will
not be available until October 2021.
Ms. Tran reviewed the Public Info/Edu/Community Promo account.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District has contacted the City of Costa Mesa to
assist with the Cardboard Recycling and Shredding events. He noted that the
City has agreed to provide additional staffing. He added that these events
will likely occur in 2022.
Ms. Tran reviewed the Trash Hauler, Recycling/Disposal, and Organics
accounts. She noted that the preliminary budget does not include the 5.6%
Consumer Price Index (CPI) increase requested by CR&R Environmental
Services. She added that this request has not been approved by the Board.
Mr. Carroll shared that CR&R's requested 5.6% CPI increase was on the
agenda for yesterday's Study Session and noted that District staff
recommended denying the CPI increase due to concerns regarding service
levels. He stated that CR&R requested to pull the item from the Study Session
agenda to meet with staff and address service issues. He noted that he is
meeting with CR&R on May 13, 2021 and that the item will be placed on the
May Board meeting agenda.
Ms. Tran discussed tonnage projections and resulting costs. She noted that
these numbers may be updated based on the direction given by the Board
regarding CR&R's requested CPI increase. She added that, if the Board
approves CR&R's CPI increase request, then the total cost will increase by
$325,300 in Fiscal Year 2021-2022 and by $335,100 in Fiscal Year 2022-2023.
She discussed the Special Programs account within the Solid Waste budget
and reviewed the proposed budget reductions.
CAC Member Corcoran joined the meeting at 6:33 p.m.
Ms. Tran reviewed the Capital Outlay Admin & Operations account within
the Wastewater fund. She discussed the purpose of a Facility Revolving fund.
She presented the budget for Capital Improvement Projects (CIP). She
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reviewed the projects and items removed from the preliminary budget. She
presented a list of future items that were excluded from the proposed budget
cycle. She discussed the fund balance for the Solid Waste fund and noted
that if the budget is adopted, then the District will not meet the operating
reserve requirements by Fiscal Year 2023-2024. She compared staff
projections with the projections provided by the contractor who conducted
the last Solid Waste Rate Study.
CAC Vice Chair Lester inquired about CR&R's requested 5.6% CPI increase.
She noted that if the Board approves of the increase, then it will add about
$660,000 to the District's current deficit.
Ms. Tran confirmed that if CR&R's CPI request is approved, then the District's
deficit will increase. She reviewed Attachment D of the staff report, which
shows the fund balance scenario if the CPI request is approved.
CAC Vice Chair Lester stated that, even though CR&R has issued the request,
the Board is not obligated to approve it. She noted that the CPI request
cannot be calculated into the preliminary budget because it has not been
approved. She added that the CPI request will more than double the District's
deficit.
Ms. Tran stated that if the CPI request is approved, then the deficit will
increase annually, and the District will not meet the operating reserve
requirements in Fiscal Year 2021-2022.
CAC Vice Chair Lester thanked Ms. Tran for her explanation.
CAC Member Fernandez inquired about CR&R's reasoning for the CPI
increase.
Ms. Tran stated that, according to CR&R's contract with the District, they can
request a CPI increase every two years, but Board approval is required.
CAC Member Fernandez stated that new solid waste legislation will go into
effect in the next few years that will affect solid waste customers.
Mr. Carroll shared that CR&R's reasoning for their requested CPI increase is
due to the COVID-19 pandemic. He stated that the pandemic impacted many
industries including solid waste. He added that the District can review
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CR&R's financials and profit margins. He noted that this information cannot
be shared with the public, but District staff can evaluate it to form a
recommendation for the Board. He stated that District Treasurer, Marc
Davis, has reviewed CR&R's financials and will share his findings at the June
Study Session.
CAC Member Arbour stated that, during the pandemic, waste haulers closed
their Materials Recovery Facilities (MRFs) but did not change their rates. He
noted that this may have resulted in a cost savings. He added that all waste
was directly transported to the landfills without going through the MRF
process.
Mr. Carroll stated that District staff will be discussing that matter with CR&R.
CAC Vice Chair Lester noted that CR&R previously requested a CPI increase
in 2019, prior to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Mr. Carroll shared that CR&R's 2019 CPI request was their first CPI increase
in about 15 years.
CAC Chair Katz inquired about the District's waste diversion rate and how it
affects recycling and disposal charges.
Mr. Carroll stated that CR&R is required to divert at least 50% of the solid
waste collected. He noted that if they do not divert that amount, then they
would be in violation of their contract and would have a specific number of
days to rectify the issue. He added that CR&R has not violated this stipulation.
He stated that all solid waste agencies in California were issued a reprieve
from the State to allow good faith efforts for waste diversion.
CAC Member Corcoran inquired about the definition of the 50% diversion
rate.
Mr. Carroll clarified that it refers to 50% of waste being diverted from the
landfills.
CAC Member Corcoran shared that some recyclables are sitting in
warehouses and not being recycled due to a lack of an end market.
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Mr. Carroll stated that the District is looking into waste incineration
technology. He noted that this topic will be presented to the CAC in the
future.
Ms. Tran continued her presentation of the preliminary budget and stated
that the District will need to use the Wastewater fund balance to balance the
budget for the next two fiscal years. She reported that the District plans to
conduct a Wastewater Rate Study. She noted that if Wastewater rate
increases are approved, then they will go into effect in Fiscal Year 2022-2023.
CAC Member Fernandez expressed recognition for Ms. Tran's presentation.
CAC Member Arbour inquired if there is another fund with extra money to
help offset the deficits in the Solid Waste fund and Wastewater fund.
Ms. Tran stated that the District's General fund records the property tax. She
noted that the Solid Waste fund and the Wastewater fund both have their
own reserve funds.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District is using its reserved funds to balance the
budget. He confirmed that there are deficits, but the overall budget is
balanced.
Ms. Tran stated that, in Fiscal Year 2019-2020, the District had a surplus in
its Wastewater fund. She reported that this fund may also have a surplus at
the end of Fiscal Year 2020-2021. She noted that all surplus amounts will be
placed into the fund balance.
CAC Chair Katz expressed recognition for Ms. Tran's presentation. She
inquired about the history of the fund balances.
Mr. Carroll commented that the solid waste rates in 2006 might have been
set too high, which resulted in a reserve fund of five million dollars. He noted
that, in the past, the solid waste expenditures were low, which resulted in a
larger fund balance. He added that the Solid Waste fund does not have
capital expenditures, unlike the Wastewater fund. He stated that the District
must have a minimum balance of about two million dollars in its Solid Waste
reserve fund. He shared that, because the Solid Waste reserve fund had a
large amount of savings, the Board approved two solid waste rate decreases.
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He noted that the COVID-19 pandemic has affected the Solid Waste reserve
fund.
CAC Chair Katz inquired about the fund balance of the Wastewater fund.
Mr. Carroll stated that the overall goal of the District's Wastewater
Department is to achieve zero sanitary sewer overflows (SSOs). He proposed
that the District hire additional staff and purchases additional equipment to
achieve this goal. He discussed the need for a Wastewater Rate Study to help
balance the Wastewater reserve fund.
CAC Member Fernandez shared that he is leading an interagency
collaboration presentation in which he has invited District Engineer, Mark
Esquer, and the District's Wastewater Maintenance Superintendent, Steve
Cano, to attend. He stated that his presentation will focus on new techniques
and innovative equipment to clean and operate sewers.
Mr. Carroll stated that he is looking forward to CAC Member Fernandez's
presentation.
CAC Member Arbour inquired about SB 1383 enforcement requirements.
Mr. Carroll shared that the preliminary budget includes a line -item budget
to hire a solid waste consultant to help the District revise its contract with
CR&R to comply with SB 1383 requirements. He noted that SB 1383 will
require collaboration with CR&R, the City of Costa Mesa, and the County of
Orange. He added that the District hopes to hire a full-time Code
Enforcement Officer to help enforce SB 1383. He reported that the District
has begun working with the City to comply with SB 1383 mandates.
There was no further discussion.
C. CLOSING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Committee Member & Staff Comments
CAC Member Brenneman expressed support for the CAC and thanked CAC
Vice Chair Lester for her explanation of CR&R's requested CPI increase.
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CAC Vice Chair Lester stated that she hopes that the Board does not approve
CR&R's requested CPI increase, especially since the District does not have the
funds to support it. She expressed support for spending additional funds on
a full-time Code Enforcement Officer or on technology that helps the District
track CR&R's performance. She encouraged the CAC to review CR&R's
performance analysis report. She added that, if the CPI increase is approved,
then it will create a financial burden for the District.
CAC Member Gielow stated that household size determines the amount of
waste generated and proposed the idea of charging customers different fees
based on this factor. She inquired about public outreach and education
regarding organic waste recycling. She discussed the District's two -cart
system.
CAC Chair Katz inquired about a special Board meeting to discuss
transitioning from a two -cart system to a three -cart system.
Mr. Carroll stated that the meeting has not been scheduled, but it will take
place soon. He discussed the District's community survey that is included in
the proposed budget.
CAC Chair Katz proposed that if the District transitions to a three -cart system,
then they can properly count the number of carts per customer.
CAC Vice Chair Lester stated that CR&R should be responsible for tracking
the number of carts per customer.
Discussion followed regarding types of organic waste.
CAC Member Arbour discussed the overall purpose of SB 1383, which is to
reduce greenhouse gas emissions by limiting the disposal of organic waste
at landfills.
CAC Chair Katz asked why palm fronds are not allowed in the Organics
Recycling carts.
CAC Member Arbour commented that palm fronds do not decompose as
easily as other types of organic waste.
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Secretary Schafer discussed the District's "Living Green" newsletter which is
mailed to each District customer.
CAC Member Arbour suggested that while some customers may receive
District information from the newsletters, others may receive it from the
District's social media platforms or other forms of public outreach.
CAC Member Corcoran stated that some customers may not have the time to
fully read the District's newsletter and may prefer to receive their news from
social media.
CAC Vice Chair Lester stated that there is not one method of communication
that will reach all District customers. She noted that customers will use
multiple types of media to receive their information. She expressed support
for the District's newsletter.
There was no further discussion.
Procedural: 2. Board/Staff Comments
Mr. Carroll discussed the current operating procedures at District
Headquarters. He shared that the District plans to reopen its offices to all
staff members and the public on June 21, 2021. He stated that the District has
put certain procedures into place to protect staff. He noted that District staff
will be required to wear a face mask and practice social distancing of at least
three feet. He added that the front doors will be locked at District
Headquarters, but that District staff will let members of the public inside as
long as they are wearing a face mask. He announced that the July CAC
meeting will be an in -person meeting at District Headquarters.
Secretary Schafer thanked all CAC members for attending the meeting.
There was no further discussion.
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Procedural: 3. Adjournment
CAC Chair Katz adjourned the meeting at 7:24 P.M.
Elodie Katz
Citizens Advisory Committee Chair