Minutes - Board - 2021-09-14COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS STUDY SESSION
SEPTEMBER 14, 2021
NOTE: THIS MEETING WAS CONDUCTED UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING PURSUANT TO
GovERNMENT CODE SECTION 54952.2 AND THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN
EFFECT WAIVING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT SECTION.
Members present
Arlene Schafer, Art Perry, Bob Ooten, Brett Eckles, Mike Scheafer
Members absent
None
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Noelani Middenway (District Clerk and Public
Information Officer), Kaitlin Tran (Finance Manager), Mark Esquer (District
Engineer), Gina Terraneo (Management Analyst II), Nabila Guzman (Management
Analyst I), Lieu Tran (Accountant), David Griffin (Facilities Maintenance Worker &
Acting Code Enforcement Officer), Tanisha Tingling (Administrative Assistant II),
Andrew Wong (Engineering Technician)
Others present
Mike Carey, CR&R
Jim Mosher, District resident
Judy Gielow, Citizens Advisory Committee and District resident
Timothy McLarney, True North Research
Meeting called to order at 8:00 A.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Roll Call - (If absences occur, consider whether to deem those
absences excused based on facts presented for the absence - such determination
shall be the permission required by law.)
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President Ooten called the meeting to order at 8:00 A.M.
District Clerk and Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway, noted
that President Ooten, Vice President Scheafer, Secretary Schafer, Director
Perry, and Director Eckles were present at this time.
B. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Procedural: 1. Public Comments
President Ooten opened public comments.
District resident, Jim Mosher, reminded everyone at the meeting to use their
microphone. He noted that the agenda should state where the meeting is
being held. He commented on Senate Bill (SB) 1383 and asked if the District
has received the total tonnage amounts collected by the Cities of Costa Mesa
and Newport Beach. He stated that paper and cardboard are considered
organic waste according to SB 1383. He asked about the District's most
current estimate of cardboard tonnage.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, and President Ooten stated that the District
will respond to Mr. Mosher with the requested information.
Hearing no additional comments, President Ooten closed public comments.
C. ITEMS OF STUDY
Procedural: 1. Introduction of Engineering Technician, Andrew Wong — Oral
Report
District Engineer, Mark Esquer, introduced the District's new Engineering
Technician, Andrew Wong.
Mr. Wong introduced himself to the Board.
The Board welcomed Mr. Wong to the District.
There was no further discussion.
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Action, Receive and File: 2. August 2021 Code Enforcement Officer Report
Recommendation: That the Board of Directors receives and files this report.
Acting Code Enforcement Officer, David Griffin, provided report details.
Director Eckles asked if Mr. Griffin is tracking identifying information for
repeat offenders.
Mr. Griffin stated that he has identified one repeat offender. He noted that
he has not witnessed other repeat offenders.
Director Eckles suggested taking action against repeat offenders.
Mr. Griffin stated that he will take direction from the Board for those cases.
He stated that he currently threatens repeat offenders with a citation. As a
result, he noted that activity has decreased.
Secretary Schafer inquired about enforcement articles being translated into
Spanish in the District's newsletter.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that everything included in the newsletter is
translated into Spanish.
Secretary Schafer discussed trash complaints related to the Organic
Recycling Carts.
Mr. Griffin stated that he will patrol the areas that are experiencing trash
issues.
Vice President Scheafer stated that there were many scavengers looking
through trash carts after Labor Day. He commented on the issue of missed
trash pickups.
Director Perry asked about homes without enough space to store their trash
carts.
Mr. Griffin reported that there are some homes without enough storage
space, especially multifamily homes. He noted that some residences can
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have up to eight carts on one property. He stated that he is addressing this
issue on an as -needed basis.
Discussion followed regarding the City of Costa Mesa-s requirement for trash
enclosures.
Director Perry stated that, if the District must transition to a three -cart
system, then some properties will not have enough storage space, especially
since some properties do not currently have enough space to store two carts.
President Ooten requested for Mr. Griffin to research the City's ordinance
related to trash carts in alleyways. He stated that there are rules requiring
access for fire trucks and other emergency vehicles. He suggested providing
Mr. Griffin with outreach materials in Spanish to assist him with engaging
with Spanish speakers.
Mr. Griffin stated that he will follow up with the City to obtain more
information on their ordinance. He shared that he uses Google Translate to
help him communicate with non-English speakers.
Secretary Schafer asked if the District has been reviewing plans for
condominium and townhome complexes to ensure that there is enough
roadway access for police and fire vehicles.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that the District reviews such plans and issues will -
serve letters before the City approves of new developments.
Director Perry asked who represents the District at City planning meetings.
Mr. Carroll stated that Mr. Esquer and Mr. Wong represent the District.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 3. Received and File Report from Steve Cano,
Wastewater Maintenance Superintendent and Joel Ortiz, Wastewater
Maintenance III for Attending the Tri-State Seminar in Las Vegas from August
9-12, 2021
Recommendation: That the Board of Directors receives and files this report.
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Mr. Carroll introduced the item and noted that Mr. Cano and Mr. Ortiz are
unavailable to present the report as they are currently working in the field.
The Board decided to continue this item to a future Study Session so that Mr.
Cano and Mr. Ortiz are available to present the report.
There was no further discussion.
Discussion: 4. Provide Comments and Questions for the 2021 Community -wide
Citizens Survey
Recommendation: That the Board of Directors provide comments and questions
for the 2021 Community Wide Citizen Survey.
Mr. Carroll presented report details. He shared that the District selected True
North Research to conduct the 2021 Community -wide Citizen Survey. He
stated that True North Research will be surveying 1,000 ratepayers via
phone, email, and text messaging. He added that this item was presented to
the Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) and that the staff report includes
sample questions submitted by CAC Chair Elodie Katz. He introduced the
President of True North Research, Timothy McLarney.
Dr. McLarney shared a presentation about the survey. He discussed the
survey requirements, including validity, reliability, and representation. He
reviewed survey challenges, including language barriers, Spam filters, mode
effects, busy lifestyles, measurement error, subgroup response bias, and
habitual call screening. He stated that True North Research's approach
includes stratified random sampling, recruitment by email, text messaging,
and telephone, and collection of telephone and online data. He described the
survey process and timeline.
Director Perry asked if True North Research will be informing respondents
that the survey is from the District.
Dr. McLarney confirmed that they will state that the survey is from the
District to guarantee legitimacy and trust. He added that all correspondence
must be approved by the District before the survey process begins.
Director Perry asked if True North Research needs to hire a third party to
email and text respondents.
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Dr. McLarney stated that they will be working with their data collection
partners who have over 20 years of experience in this field.
Vice President Scheafer asked if True North Research has a set schedule of
times and dates for calling respondents.
Dr. McLarney stated that they will be calling during the week in the early
evening hours of 5:30 to 9:00 p.m. He noted that they will be calling people
on the weekends during a broader range of hours. He added that if someone
does not answer the call, then they will call them again at a different time.
Discussion followed regarding the timing of phone calls.
Secretary Schafer asked if there is a timeline for the survey process.
Dr. McLarney shared his timeline and stated that they are about to enter the
design phase of the survey process.
Secretary Schafer asked if the Board will be reviewing the final survey
before it is published.
Dr. McLarney stated that he will be sharing the final survey with District
staff to review and provide edits. He added that, after it is approved, the final
survey will be placed on a meeting agenda as a "receive and file" item with
a verbal report presented to the Board.
Secretary Schafer asked when the Board can submit questions for the
survey.
Dr. McLarney stated that the Board can submit their questions today.
Director Eckles asked how many people True North Research will be calling
in order to reach 1,000 respondents.
Dr. McLarney stated that it depends on the response rate. He shared details
from a recent project for which they reached out to triple the number of
respondents. He noted that response rates can vary between 5% to 20%.
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Director Eckles asked if there is a need to incentivize people to respond to
the survey.
Dr. McLarney stated that he generally does not find the need to incentivize
people, especially for government surveys. He noted that people are more
likely to respond to surveys regarding their community and local services.
Director Eckles suggested sharing a few survey questions so that True North
Research can create a rough draft of the survey. He recommended reviewing
the rough draft via email rather than scheduling another public meeting.
President Ooten stated that the Board will review the survey before it is
published. He commented that the District has been working diligently to
improve their communication efforts. He asked if True North Research
would be willing to share or help enhance the District's email and text
message communications.
Dr. McLarney discussed a couple different methods for enhancing email and
text message communications. He noted that the survey will provide insight
into how District customers prefer to be contacted. He recommended for the
District to enhance their database of customers by including their phone
numbers and email addresses.
President Ooten shared that there is a low percentage of people interested
in District functions. He asked if True North Research will contact previous
respondents who are more receptive to taking multiple surveys.
Dr. McLarney stated that they do not contact the same respondents. He noted
that they carefully sample a different mix of people for each survey. He
added that there are certain types of people who are more likely to take
surveys. He stated that they will be monitoring the demographics of their
sample to ensure that they are surveying a variety of respondents.
Director Perry asked if there is already a rough draft prepared.
Mr. Carroll stated that there is a rough draft of questions prepared. He noted
that some of the questions originate from the 2019 Citizen Survey while
some are more focused on transitioning to a three -cart system. He instructed
the Board to share their suggested questions with District staff. He added
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that there will be questions regarding the Orange Coast College (OCC)
Recycling Center and recycling behaviors.
Discussion followed regarding the timeline to submit additional questions.
Vice President Scheafer discussed the survey questions submitted by CAC
Chair Katz. He discussed the confusion regarding the phrase "green waste
carts." He noted that all District trash carts are green and recommended for
a new phrase to describe the green waste carts.
Mr. Carroll noted that the green waste carts are organic waste carts, but
some customers do not know what "organic waste" means.
Vice President Scheafer requested to include questions assessing customers'
awareness of how to report missed trash pickups or sewer issues.
President Ooten shared that, because of the previous Citizen Survey, the
District hired a communications consultant, Tripepi Smith, to help with their
communication efforts.
Director Eckles suggested including questions assessing customer
satisfaction with trash service, understanding of sewer laterals, customers'
responsibilities, items that can or cannot be poured down drains, and the
possibility of transitioning to a three -cart system.
Director Perry suggested including questions regarding all services provided
by the District.
Mr. Carroll instructed the Board to submit their suggested questions by the
end of the day tomorrow.
Director Eckles suggested including questions regarding trash and sewer
rates.
President Ooten suggested including questions assessing citizen concerns.
He noted that the survey is a good opportunity to educate their customers
on District services.
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Director Eckles recommended using CR&R's performance metrics to draft
survey questions.
Mr. Mosher stated that he submitted comments regarding the previous
Citizen Survey's validity. He commented that the research firm selected
respondents from the voter list for the District's service area. He expressed
concern that many voters may not be District customers. He stressed the
importance of verifying that respondents are District customers. He
recommended asking respondents if they place their trash cart at the curb
to determine if they are a District trash customer. He suggested cross
referencing respondents' addresses. He stated that, for rate -related
questions, it is important to survey the person who is paying the property
tax bill. He noted that the previous Citizen Survey did not ask these types of
questions. He added that it is common to ask if a customer has any thoughts
on how to improve District services and to provide a method for submitting
suggestions after the survey concludes. He expressed concerns about the
previous survey's results, reliability, and accuracy.
Dr. McLarney stated that, for every property on their survey list, they are
aware of the services that the property receives. He added that they will
know in advance if the respondent receives service and which types of
service. He noted that they may ask clarifying questions during the survey
to ensure that the respondents receive appropriate and relevant questions.
He discussed the sample size and stated that, when it gets broken down into
subgroups, the margin of error increases because it is based on subgroup
size rather than the overall sample size.
CAC Member and District resident, Judy Gielow, asked if the Board received
CAC Chair Katz's letter.
President Ooten confirmed that it was received.
CAC Member Gielow stated that she shares some of the questions listed on
CAC Chair Katz's letter and is eager to see them included in the survey.
There was no further discussion.
Discussion, Receive and File: S. Receive and File Quarterly Legislative Report —
Quarter 3
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Recommendation: That the Board of Directors receives and files the Quarterly
Legislative Report.
Mr. Carroll introduced the item.
Management Analyst II, Gina Terraneo, presented report details. She shared
that last Friday was the last day for the state legislature to pass any bills that
would be passed on to the Governor. She noted that the Governor has until
October 10th to sign or veto the bills. She stated that, if the Governor is
recalled, then the new governor would assume the position 38 days after the
election, which is October 22nd. She discussed a few notable bills that have
passed and are awaiting action by the Governor. She discussed Assembly Bill
(AB) 818 which would require wipes to contain specific labeling with the
phrase "Do Not Flush." She noted that this bill is supported by the District
and by the Orange County Sanitation District (OCSD). She discussed AB 1201,
which would prohibit manufacturers from selling products that are labeled
compostable or biodegradable unless they meet certain standards or have
received certification. She discussed AB 1276, which would prohibit
distributors from giving out single -use foodware and condiments except
upon request.
Vice President Scheafer stated that, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, most
food establishments removed their condiment stations.
Ms. Terraneo stated that people may request single -use products like straws
and condiment packets. She discussed SB 244, which would prohibit lithium -
ion batteries in trash containers and require trash haulers to conduct
specific trainings on how to handle battery -related fires.
Director Perry asked if SB 244 is already a regulation. He stated that the
District does not allow lithium -ion batteries to be placed in trash carts.
Ms. Terraneo stated that SB 244 would create more repercussions for
disposing of lithium -ion batteries illegally.
Vice President Scheafer asked CR&R representative, Mike Carey, if CR&Ws
Materials Recovery Facility (MRF) staff is well -trained on lithium -ion
batteries.
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Mr. Carey stated that CR&R is well -trained on how to recognize and label
lithium -ion batteries.
Ms. Terraneo discussed SB 594 which would update the deadline for
redistricting to April 17, 2022.
Director Eckles asked about the District's opposition to AB 59.
Ms. Terraneo stated that AB 59 was stuck in committee, but she will verify
its status.
Director Perry inquired about congressional bill HR 535 regarding the
Essential Services Act.
Ms. Terraneo stated that there has not been any recent movement on HR
535. She noted that it is aimed at securing funding for special districts as part
of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES) Act.
Secretary Schafer shared that information about SB 594 is available on the
California Special Districts Association's (CSDA) website.
Director Perry asked if redistricting will affect the next election cycle in 2022.
Vice President Scheafer stated that it will affect 2022 elections if the District
decides to revert back to District -wide elections.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that District Counsel, Alan Burns, recommended for
the District to continue with elections by division.
Director Eckles asked if SB 594 will require the District to redraw their
division boundaries.
President Ooten stated that the District will have to redraw their division
boundaries based on the 2020 Census data.
Discussion followed regarding redistricting.
Mr. Mosher asked if there is a law prohibiting "dirty" MRFs that accept and
sort mixed waste.
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President Ooten stated that SB 1383 may impact the current operations of
MRFs.
Mr. Carroll stated that SB 1383 does not prohibit mixed waste carts.
However, he noted that the materials placed in a mixed waste cart must be
transported to a high diversion facility. He added that the District is waiting
for CalRecycle to define "high diversion."
Discussion followed regarding CalRecycle's diversion rates and SB 1383
implementation.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Discussion, Receive and File: 6. Receive and File CR&R's Benchmark Measures
Progress Report
Recommendation: That the Board of Directors receives and files this report.
Mr. Carroll presented report details.
Vice President Scheafer asked if the July data was affected by the 4t' of July
holiday.
Mr. Carroll stated that the report contains data for the whole month of July
and that the July 41 trash delay was a factor regarding missed trash pickups.
President Ooten asked about a measure that refers to an annual or
semiannual criteria for missed trash pickups.
Mr. Carroll stated that the Board directed District staff to present six months'
worth of data regarding CR&R's performance. He stated that District staff
currently has two months' worth of data and that, by January 2022, they will
have six months' worth of data.
Director Eckles stated that the total benchmark number for missed trash
pickups in a six-month period is set at 174. He added that, in two months,
CR&R has received 130 missed trash requests. He inquired about the
timeline regarding the City of Newport Beach's transfer station.
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Mr. Carroll stated that the City of Newport Beach and CR&R have not
provided a definitive answer regarding the transfer station. He noted that
there is an issue with the scales.
Discussion followed regarding scales and the City of Newport Beach's
transfer station.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Procedural: 1.Oral Communications and Director Comments
President Ooten asked about the next Solid Waste Ad Hoc Committee
meeting.
Mr. Carroll stated that District staff is in the process of setting up the next
meeting.
President Ooten commented that the District discontinued their monetary
support for OCC Recycling Center's collection of light bulbs and other items.
He inquired about how much money was saved from this decision.
Mr. Carroll stated that $50,000 was saved. He shared that customers can have
their items picked up curbside through the District's Household Hazardous
Waste (HHW) Collection Program. He noted that most of the people who
were dropping off HHW items at the OCC Recycling Center were not District
customers.
President Ooten commented that is it easier for him to drop off his items at
the OCC Recycling Center than to schedule a pickup with CR&R.
Director Perry asked about the cost per HHW pickup.
Mr. Carroll stated that the HHW Collection Program is included in the
District's trash rate and not an additional cost.
Director Perry shared that he scheduled an HHW pickup with CR&R and it
was very easy.
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President Ooten stated that this topic would be a good article for the District's
newsletter.
Vice President Scheafer expressed recognition for the District's social media
presence, and its promotion of its Large Item Collection Program. He asked
for data regarding the number of large item pickup requests. He shared that
his relative experienced some issues with scheduling a request.
Mr. Carroll stated that District staff is aware that there are some issues with
scheduling large item pickups.
There were no additional comments by the Board.
Procedural: 2. Adjournment
President Ooten adjourned the meeting at 9:37 A.M.
Arlene Schafer
Secretary
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Bob Ooten
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