Minutes - Board - 2021-07-30COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS SPECIAL MEETING
JULY 30, 2021
Note: This meeting was conducted utilizing teleconferencing pursuant to Government code Section
54952.2 and the Governor's Executive Orders in effect waiving some of the requirements of that
Section.
Members present
Arlene Schafer, Art Perry, Bob Ooten, Brett Eckles, Mike Scheafer
Members absent
None
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Alan Burns (District Counsel), Noelani Middenway
(District Clerk and Public Information Officer), Kaitlin Tran (Finance Manager),
Steve Cano (Wastewater Maintenance Superintendent), Mark Esquer (District
Engineer)
Others present
Jim Mosher, District resident
Margarito Garcia, C&R Drains
Meeting called to order at 8:00 A.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Call Meeting to Order - President Ooten
President Ooten called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m.
Procedural: 2. Roll Call - (If absences occur, consider whether to deem those
absences excused based on facts presented for the absence - such determination
shall be the permission required by law.)
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District Clerk and Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway,
conducted roll call and noted that President Ooten, Vice President Scheafer,
Secretary Schafer, Director Perry, and Director Eckles were present.
Procedural: 3. Announcement of Late Communications- Unless directed otherwise
by the Board of Directors, all actions shall be based on/memorialized by the latest
document submitted as a late communication.
Ms. Middenway stated that she did not receive any late communications, but
that the District's General Manager, Scott Carroll, received communications
from the property owner. She shared the owner's email correspondence
with the Board.
Mr. Carroll stated that he received an email from the property owner
yesterday at 4:15 p.m. requesting to reschedule the public hearing. He noted
that the owner did not provide a specific reason for his request. Mr. Carroll
shared his response to the owner. He noted that he does not have the
authority to determine if the public hearing should continue without the
owner in attendance.
District Counsel, Alan Burns, stated that the Board has the authority to
determine if the public hearing should continue. He added that, based on the
lateness and lack of specificity of the communication, the Board should
determine the status of the public hearing.
Vice President Scheafer asked if the Board needs to discuss the item before
issuing a continuance.
Mr. Burns confirmed that the Board must accept public comments and
review the agenda item before issuing a decision.
There was no further discussion.
B. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Procedural: 1. Public Comments
President Ooten opened public comments.
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District resident, Jim Mosher, recommended denying the continuance
because the owner did not provide an explanation for his absence, nor did
he provide a date to reschedule the hearing. He added that granting a
continuance would result in a continuation of repeated behavior.
Hearing no additional comments, President Ooten closed public comments.
C. PUBLIC HEARING
Action: 1. Public Hearing to Determine Whether the Owner or Others Are
Responsible for a Sewer System Overflow at 1826 Pomona Ave, Costa Mesa;
Whether the Owner Should Have Been Allowed to Abate the Spill; and
Whether the Costs of Abatement Were Reasonable
Recommendation: That the Board of Directors determine the following:
1. Whether the owner or others are responsible for sewer system overflows at
1826 Pomona Avenue, Costa Mesa; and
2. Whether the owner should have been allowed to abate the spill; and
3. Whether the costs of abatement were reasonable.
President Ooten opened the public hearing and introduced the item. He
stated that the owner has requested a continuance for the public hearing.
Action: 2. Opening Comments by President and District Counsel
President Ooten opened the discussion to deliberate the owner's request for
a continuance.
Vice President Scheafer stated that he is inclined to deny the continuance
based on the history of the owner's tendency to postpone or not respond to
District communications.
Director Eckles expressed agreement with Vice President Scheafer. He stated
that the owner should have provided a reason for a continuance. He added
that the email sent by the owner was insufficient.
Secretary Schafer stated that it was unacceptable of the owner to request a
continuance the day before the public hearing at 4:15 p.m.
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Motion: To deny the owner's request for a continuance for the public
hearing.
Motion by Mike Scheafer, second by Brett Eckles
Final Resolution: Motion Carries, 5-0
Ayes: Arlene Schafer, Art Perry, Bob Ooten, Mike Scheafer, Brett Eckles
There was no further discussion.
Action: 3. Call the Matter for Hearing
President Ooten stated that this public hearing is to determine if the property
owner, Peter Bedford, is responsible for the charges for a sewer spill at 1826
Pomona Avenue, Costa Mesa, CA. He added that a sewer spill occurred at that
location, but the property owner or other person may be interested in
contesting whether the private owner caused the spill by poor lateral
maintenance or if the District or other person is responsible. He stated that
the District is to consider the cost of the abatement. He noted that the public
hearing is being conducted pursuant to the Costa Mesa Sanitary District's
Operations Code, Section 6.02.010, which makes private owners responsible
for maintaining their private sewer laterals in good working condition, and
Chapter 6.10, which states that the District shall provide a hearing process
for persons to contest District staff s determination about responsibility and
the charges presented. He stated that the hearing is being conducted before
the Board of Directors and that he is the presiding officer. He added that Mr.
Burns will assist with the procedural matters and in preparing the decision.
He stated that Mr. Carroll will be presenting the District staffs case while
Mr. Bedford will be challenging District staffs determinations. He added that
the Board has not been involved in this dispute so that it can provide due
process. He discussed the process for the hearing and stated that it is
assumed that each party has been provided the other's materials in advance
of the hearing. He confirmed that the public hearing will not be a trial with
full cross-examination rights. He stated that the Board wishes to hear about
the cause of the spill and about the cost of the abatement.
Mr. Burns requested to have all documents that were submitted in the
agenda packet as part of the administrative record for this matter.
There was no further discussion.
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Action: 4. Staff Presentation
Mr. Carroll presented District staff s case regarding the sanitary sewer
overflow (SSO) at 1826 Pomona Ave. He stated that this location is a small
apartment complex that consists of seven units. He noted that it is located
behind 1828 and 1834 Pomona Avenue. He discussed the main accessway to
the property, including its sloped driveway, which requires a private pump
station. He stated that the pump station will pump wastewater up the
driveway into the District's main sewer line on Pomona Avenue. He showed
pictures of the two cleanouts located on the property, the nearest manhole
cover (which is located about 75 feet east of the property's driveway) and
the property's pump station. He stated that the first SSO at this property
occurred on June 17, 2015, for which District staff dammed up the sewer
spill. He presented a diagram depicting a blockage near the sidewalk. He
noted that, even though the sidewalk and the street are public right-of-way,
the District's Operations Code, Section 6.02.020, indicates that the property
owner shall maintain the lateral that connects to the District's sewer main,
including any portion that may lie within public right-of-way or within a
District easement. He stated that District staff believed that there is an offset
in the lateral that required the property owner to closed circuit televise
(CCTV) his lateral in accordance with Operations Code, Section 6.03.020,
subsection D, which states that property owners shall be required to have
an inspection of their sewer lateral prepared by a licensed plumber utilizing
CCTV whenever an SSO occurs at the property. He reported that the property
owner refused to CCTV his lateral and refused to reimburse the District for
the costs related to relieving the blockage because he believed that the
District caused the SSO.
Mr. Carroll discussed the SSO that occurred on February 25, 2021, at 1826
Pomona Avenue. He stated that the District's contractor, C&R Drains,
responded to the SSO and observed water coming out of the cleanout in the
driveway. He reported that C&R Drains confirmed that the District's main
line in the street was flowing properly and did not observe any water being
held in the main line. He stated that C&R Drains ran a jetter in the sewer
lateral for about 150 feet to clear the blockage on February 25, 2021. He
added that the property owner contacted C&R Drains to report that his sewer
lines at the complex were clogged on February 27, 2021. He reported that
CR&R Drains noticed that water in the main line was flowing properly, but
that the six-inch cleanout near the sidewalk was holding water. He stated
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that, when the property's private pump station was activated, C&R Drains
observed water coming up the six-inch cleanout and advised the property
owner that the stoppage was within his property and that it is his
responsibility to relieve the blockage. He reported that the property owner
allowed C&R Drains to snake the sewer lateral in which C&R Drains hit an
obstruction approximately 20 feet before the District's mainline. He noted
that this instance was very similar to the June 17, 2015, SSO. He reported that
C&R Drains pulled out wipes, toilet paper, and pieces of debris that appeared
to be t-shirts and large rags from the sewer lateral. He stated that C&R Drains
recommended CCTV of the sewer lateral, since it was found to be holding
water. He added that C&R Drains confirmed that the private pump station
was operating properly. He presented the District's first notice to the
property owner that was mailed on March 25, 2021, and discussed the costs
associated with the SSOs on June 17, 2015, February 25, 2021, and February
27, 2021. He presented the District's Engineering Department's letter
requesting CCTV to show the condition of the sewer lateral that was mailed
to the property owner on March 26, 2021. He reported that on April 6, 2021,
the property owner called District Engineer, Mark Esquer, and stated that he
refused to CCTV his sewer lateral because he believes that debris from the
District's main line backed up into his private lateral causing the SSO and
that he believes C&R Drains did not properly perform the work on February
25, 2021, which caused the second SSO on February 27, 2021. He stated that
the property owner threatened to sue the District and demanded to speak
with the General Manager.
Mr. Carroll shared that he contacted the property owner on April 8, 2021, to
waive the costs for the 2015 SSO because it occurred almost six years ago. He
noted that he emailed the pictures of the incidents from C&R Drains to the
property owner. He stated that the property owner suggested for him to visit
the property to observe the pump. He reported that on April 27, 2021, the
District's Finance Department mailed an updated notice that included
interest and penalty charges and removed the back bill charges for the SSO
on June 17, 2015. He shared that he met with the property owner and the
property manager on April 30, 2021 and took pictures of the private sewer
PUMP. He noted that the property owner provided his own pictures of the
SSO incidents. He stated that the property owner claimed to have updated
pump station maintenance records and a recording of C&R Drains' snake
work but has yet to provide these items to the District. He reported that he
emailed the property owner on May 4, 2021 informing him that the SSO was
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caused by rags shredded from the private sewer pump, which were then
caught or snagged within the lateral pipe. He stated that District staff
believes that the lateral has an offset and is requesting a CCTV for District
review. He shared that he also texted the property owner of the District's
response on May 4, 2021. He stated that the property owner referred the
issue to his construction consultant, John Hillerman, who will be conducting
a complete investigation of the issue. He noted that he has yet to receive any
findings from Mr. Hillerman's investigation.
Mr. Carroll reported that the Finance Department mailed a third notice to
the property owner on June 8, 2021, in which the District agreed to waive the
interest and penalty charges if he paid within the next 30 days. He noted that
the District did not receive a response from the property owner and mailed
a fourth notice on July 8, 2021. He shared that the District has still not
received a response from the property owner, which prompted District staff
to schedule a public hearing. He stated that, in accordance with Operations
Code, Chapter 6.10, the District has the authority for cost recovery and that
Section 6.10.030 allows the responsible party to receive notice and due
process before the District decides to place unpaid charges on the property
tax roll. He shared that on July 15, 2021, a co -occupant residing at the
owner's official residence accepted the notice from the District and
presented the District's proof of service. He noted that he also texted and
emailed the property owner on July 22, 2021 with a copy of the notice and
proof of service. He reviewed the attachments of the staff report. He stated
that he emailed the draft staff report to the property owner on July 25, 2021.
He shared that C&R Drains, the District Engineer, and the District's
Wastewater Maintenance Superintendent are available for questions.
Mr. Burns requested for the record to state that the sewer spill needed to be
cleaned immediately by C&R Drains and that the District charges were
reasonable.
Mr. Carroll stated that, after a sewer blockage is addressed, the District or
C&R Drains is responsible for cleaning the sewer spill. He shared that C&R
Drains' charges for responding to sewer spills are reasonable. He noted that
the District always allows property owners to utilize their own plumbers for
sewer maintenance. He stated that the property owner instructed C&R
Drains to proceed with their services.
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Mr. Burns asked Mr. Carroll if the bill from C&R Drains is reasonable.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that he finds their bill to be reasonable and that the
bill was paid by the District.
There was no further discussion.
Action: 5.Owner's Presentation
The owner was not present.
Action: 6. Concluding Comments
Vice President Scheafer inquired about Exhibit 11 of the staff report.
Mr. Carroll stated that Exhibit 11 depicts wipes in the property's private
pump station.
Vice President Scheafer asked if the wipes indicate that the private pump
station is not maintained on a regular basis.
Mr. Carroll stated that he cannot confirm if that is the case because he has
not reviewed the property owner's maintenance records. He stated that,
according to C&R Drains who did observe the private pump station, it
appears to be working properly. He clarified that the District believes the
offset in the sewer lateral caused the SSOs.
Vice President Scheafer inquired about the offset.
Mr. Carroll stated that an offset refers to a crack in the sewer lateral.
Wastewater Maintenance Superintendent, Steve Cano, stated that an offset
can refer to lateral joints that have been disconnected.
Vice President Scheafer inquired if the property owner is claiming that
debris from the District's main line entered his private system, which then
caused the SSOs. He also asked if the property owner has been proactive in
addressing these issues with his tenants.
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Mr. Carroll stated that he is unaware if the property owner has discussed
these issues with his tenants.
Mr. Esquer stated that the property owner tried to explain to him that debris
from the District's sewer line travelled into his private lateral, which
resulted in a blockage. He presented a rough diagram drawing of the area.
He explained how private sewer laterals are connected to the District's
system. He noted that the District's sewer main is about 4 feet below street
level. He stated that residential sewer lines are connected to the District's
main line at about a 1-2% slope, so that residential sewage flows downhill
into the District's system. He noted that the property owner has a private
pump station connected to his private sewer lateral which flows by gravity
into the District's system. He explained that District sewer mains are
designed to only reach half capacity during times of heavy flow. He stated
that the property owner contends that, during a period of high flow, the
water level exceeded the pipe levels which caused solids to flow upward into
his private sewer lateral. He noted that, even during periods of high flow,
the water level does not exceed half capacity, which would make it difficult
for any debris or waste in the District's system to travel upwards. He noted
that, because C&R Drains examined the District's downstream manhole and
noticed that water was flowing properly, there is no stoppage within the
District's sewer main.
Director Eckles asked if Mr. Esquer has ever witnessed a sewer main flowing
upward into a private lateral.
Mr. Esquer stated that he has seen SSOs stoppages caused by high water
levels within a sewer main that resulted in water travelling upward into a
sewer lateral.
Director Eckles inquired if the property owner has submitted any evidence
to justify their claim.
Mr. Carroll stated that the property owner has not submitted any evidence.
Director Eckles asked why the District did not initially issue a charge for the
SSO in 2015.
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Mr. Carroll stated that the District issued notices to the property in 2015, but
failed to follow through to collect charges due to other pressing issues at the
time.
Director Eckles inquired about a current estimate of the charges issued
against the property owner.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that the property owner will owe about $1,300.00. He
inquired if the Board has the authority to approve applying the 2015 charges
to the property owner.
Director Eckles asked Mr. Burns if it is legal to apply the 2015 charges.
Mr. Burns stated that the 2015 charges exceed the three-year statute of
limitations and cannot be applied. He confirmed that the penalty charges are
specifically authorized by the Health and Safety Code. He noted that, if the
charges are approved, then the District will present a resolution or some
form of memorialization before the charges are placed on the property tax
roll. He added that, once placed on the tax roll, the charges will also incur
interest until they are collected.
Director Eckles inquired if the Board could vote to assess the current charge
of $1,149.87 without the additional fees included.
Mr. Burns confirmed that the Board can vote to assess only the current
charge of $1,149.87.
Secretary Schafer inquired if the District should communicate this issue to
the seven units within the apartment complex.
Mr. Burns stated that it would be appropriate to send notices to the tenants,
but noted that it is the property owner's responsibility to respond to the
issue. He stated that the Board has the ultimate authority to disconnect
properties from the sewer system for failing to comply with District
regulations.
Director Perry asked about the deadline to apply the charges to the tax roll.
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Mr. Burns stated that the deadline is August 10, 2021. He noted that the
District will have to wait until next year to add it to the tax roll.
Director Perry inquired if the District should grant the property owner the
opportunity to pay the charges before they are placed on the tax roll.
Mr. Burns stated that, if the Board confirms the charges, then the property
owner will be provided a copy of the resolution.
President Ooten inquired about C&R Drains' response to the first incident in
February 2021.
Mr. Carroll stated that he is unsure as to who called C&R Drains, but noted
that the incident occurred outside of District operating hours at 11:30 p.m.
President Ooten highlighted that the property owner has not provided which
sewer professional advised him that the District's main line was the issue.
Discussion followed regarding the wording of the staff report.
Mr. Carroll clarified that the property owner finds the District to be at fault
because they did not continue to address the issue after the SSO in 2015. He
reiterated that the District did not follow up with the property owner after
that incident due to other pressing issues.
President Ooten reviewed the details of the case and stipulated that it is
unlikely for a private pump station to shred large rags and pieces of debris.
He noted that large rags have a greater tendency to clog a pump.
Secretary Schafer asked for Mr. Burns to review the Board's options for
assessing this issue.
Mr. Burns stated that the Board has the option of determining whether to
confirm the charges and whether the District responded appropriately. He
added that the Board must confirm whether the charges are reasonable. He
noted that the Board would direct him to present a resolution that would
memorialize the Board's findings and determinations. He stated that the
resolution would be formalized and sent to the property owner who would
have approximately 90 days to challenge the decision. He added that there
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would be a short hearing next year before the charges are placed on the tax
roll.
Director Eckles asked if the Board could vote to grant the property owner 60
days to pay the charge of $1,149.87.
Mr. Burns confirmed that this is an option for the Board. He noted that, if
approved, then he will incorporate that language into the resolution.
Mr. Cano added that, when the District responds to sewer calls during or
after operating hours, the first procedure is to examine the District's sewer
line to determine if it is a District -related issue.
Mr. Burns asked Mr. Cano to state his position with the District and his
credentials.
Mr. Cano stated for the record that he is the Wastewater Maintenance
Superintendent for the Costa Mesa Sanitary District. He listed his credentials,
which include Grade 4 collections, Grade 1 environmental, Distribution D2
and T2, National Association of Sewer Service Companies (NASSCO)
certified, and California Water Environment Association (CWEA) Santa Ana
River Basin Section (SARBS) committee member.
Vice President Scheafer confirmed that the District is only issuing a decision
for the property owner and not the tenants of the apartment complex. He
stated that he is more inclined to include the interest and penalty charges to
the overall charge because of the property owner's lack of cooperation and
responsiveness. He noted that the property owner's inaction has resulted in
an increased use of staff time and resources.
Director Eckles stated that he does not disagree with Vice President Scheafer.
He noted that his intent was to expedite the payment from the property
owner.
Discussion followed regarding the property owner's propensity to pay the
charges.
There was no further discussion.
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Action: 7. Public Hearing Closed
The public hearing was closed.
Action: 8. Board deliberates and renders its decision, directs District Counsel
to prepare confirming resolution
Motion: To approve the charge of $1,320.86, plus interest and penalty
charges, with an option for the owner to submit payment within 60 days or
it shall be placed on the next available tax roll, and to confirm that a
resolution shall be brought back to the Board for approval.
Motion by Mike Scheafer, second by Art Perry
Final Resolution: Motion Carries, 5-0
Ayes: Arlene Schafer, Art Perry, Bob Ooten, Mike Scheafer, Brett Eckles
D. CLOSING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Adjournment
AfTene Schafer
Secretary
President