Minutes - CAC - 2020-11-18
COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
NOVEMBER 18, 2020
(TELECONFERENCE MEETING VIA ZOOM)
NOTE: THIS MEETING WAS CONDUCTED UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 54952.2 AND THE GOVERNOR’S EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN EFFECT WAIVING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS
OF THAT SECTION.
CAC Members present
Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Monte Fields, Judy Gielow, Elodie Katz, Sue Lester, Phil
Marsh, Judy Takaya
CAC Members absent
Daniel Baume, Seth Greiner, Andrew Nielson
Board Members present
Director Art Perry
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Noelani Middenway (District Clerk & Public Information
Officer), Gina Terraneo (Management Analyst II), Nabila Guzman (Management Analyst
I)
Others present
Rachel Perry, District resident
Meeting called to order at 6:00 P.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Call to Order
CAC Chair Carey called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
Procedural: 2. Roll Call
District Clerk & Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway, conducted roll call.
She noted that Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) Members Carey, Fernández,
Fields, Gielow, Katz, Lester, and Takaya were present while CAC Members
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Baume, Greiner, Marsh and Nielson were not present. CAC Member Marsh joined
the meeting at 6:20 P.M.
Procedural: 3. Public Comments - Speakers will be limited to three minutes. The three
minutes per speaker time allotted may be extended for good cause by a majority vote of
the committee.
CAC Chair Carey opened public comments.
Ms. Middenway stated that there are no members of the public present, and that
no written communications were received for the CAC to review.
Hearing no members of the public wishing to speak, CAC Chair Carey closed
public comments.
B. ITEMS
Action, Receive and File: 1. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting
Minutes of September 09, 2020
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting minutes
as presented.
CAC Chair Carey presented the CAC meeting minutes of September 09, 2020 and
welcomed discussion or a motion.
Motion: To approve the meeting minutes as presented.
Motion by Sue Lester, second by Judy Gielow.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 6-0-1-4
Ayes: Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Monte Fields, Judy Gielow, Sue Lester, Judy
Takaya
No: None
Abstain: Elodie Katz
Not Present: Daniel Baume, Seth Greiner, Phil Marsh, Andrew Neilson
CAC Vice Chair Katz noted that she abstained because she was not in attendance
of the September 9, 2020 meeting.
There was no further discussion.
Action, Discussion: 2. Overview of September 28, 2020 and October 26, 2020 Board
of Directors Meetings
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files this report.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, provided a brief overview of the September 28,
2020 and October 26, 2020 Board of Directors Meetings. He discussed Item 3 of
the September 28, 2020 Board of Directors meeting, which addresses the Bristol
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Sewer Siphon Repair project. He noted that this project has been challenging due
to a hose being stuck in the main and secondary line. He reported that the District
found concrete debris inside the pipes, which resulted in an expensive and time-
consuming removal process. He stated that the District requested an additional
$109,000 to reline the repaired pipes. He noted that the project has been delayed
by three weeks due to the COVID-19 pandemic. He reported that the Board
approved the transfer of $109,000 from the Asset Management Fund to the Bristol
Sewer Siphon Repair project. He discussed Item 4 of the September 28, 2020
meeting, regarding the approval of special holiday pay for the days before
Thanksgiving and Christmas for District staff. He stated that, in the past, the District
closes for the afternoons before those two holidays to allow for travel time for
District staff. He noted that this agenda item was greatly appreciated by District
staff. He inquired if the CAC had any questions regarding the September 28, 2020
meeting.
Hearing none, he reviewed Item 4 of the October 26, 2020 Board of Directors
meeting, which discusses the first quarterly report for the 2020-2025 Strategic
Plan. He noted that the District has had a successful start in completing their 140
goals of the 2020-2025 Strategic Plan. He reviewed Item 5 of the October 26, 2020
meeting agenda, which involves a sewer spill that took place on October 2, 2020.
He reported that the force main inside the Mesa Drive bridge located over the 55
Freeway had a clogged air release valve that caused wastewater to enter a Cal
Trans storm drain. He noted that the District recovered all the spillage and cleaned
the Cal Trans storm drain. He stated that the Board approved the transfer of
$400,000 from an existing Capital Improvement Project (CIP) for this project. He
shared that the District will be removing the air release valve to ensure that this
issue does not repeat. He added that the District paid for the cleaning of the storm
drain. Additionally, he shared that the District awarded GCI Construction the
contract for the President Pump Station Reconstruction project. He noted that, in
his 11 years of working at the District, this contract for over $1.6 million is the
largest contract awarded by the Board. He reviewed the details of the President
Pump Station Reconstruction project. He noted that the CAC’s recommendation
for this project was approved by the Board and incorporated into the contract. He
added that GCI Construction will begin the project on December 22, 2020, and that
it will take about five months to complete. He stated that, the Board also had a
closed session item regarding the California River Watch litigation, but noted that
he is unable to report any closed session information. He inquired if the CAC had
any questions regarding the October 26, 2020 meeting.
CAC Member Fields inquired if the public has access to information regarding the
California River Watch litigation.
Mr. Carroll stated that he is unable to share any information that is discussed
during a closed session. He noted that, in the future, he will be able to discuss the
matter publicly.
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CAC Member Lester shared that she witnessed water flooding near the Mesa Drive
bridge located over the 55 Freeway. She noted that she reported the issue to the
City of Costa Mesa before October 2, 2020. She inquired if this might be related to
the District’s air release valve.
Mr. Carroll stated that the spillage from the air release valve was located
underneath the Mesa Drive bridge. He inquired if she witnessed the leakage while
walking on the 55 Freeway.
She clarified that she was walking on a road near the Mesa Drive bridge and 55
freeway, which is where she saw the water flowing. She stated that the water was
flowing down a hill and toward the 55 Freeway.
Mr. Carroll stated that this issue is not related to the sewer spill caused by the
District’s air release valve. He offered to meet CAC Member Lester at the location
to determine the cause of the water leak.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 3. Door-to-Door Household Hazardous Waste (HHW)
Collection Program
Recommendation: That the Citizen Advisory Committee makes recommendations for
increasing program participation by 5%.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District is seeking recommendations for increasing the
Door-to-Door Household Hazardous Waste (HHW) Collection program
participation by 5%. He noted that this item is one of the District’s 2020-2025
strategic goals.
Management Analyst I, Nabila Guzman, provided report details. She stated that
the HHW program used to be only available for seniors and disabled customers.
She noted that, at that time, the District paid CR&R $98.00 per collection. She
shared that other solid waste customers were instructed to visit an Orange County
HHW collection facility for disposal or participate in the biennial HHW collection
event at Orange Coast College. She reported that, in 2018, the District negotiated
CR&R’s contract to include Door-to-Door HHW pickups for all solid waste
customers. She stated that each customer is eligible for three pickups per year
and discussed the procedure for scheduling a pickup. She described the types of
HHW materials that are accepted by CR&R. She presented a chart depicting
collection data from 2012 to date. She noted that there was an increase in pickups
once the program was available for all solid waste customers. Although
participation has increased, she stated that only about 3% of the District’s service
area participates in the program. She discussed how the District currently
advertises the program.
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Mr. Carroll expressed appreciation for the program and noted that it is not offered
to a lot of communities. He stated that CR&R has found paint in District trash carts.
He discussed the potential damage of placing paint in a Mixed Waste Cart for
regular collection. He asked the CAC to share any suggestions on how to increase
program participation.
CAC Vice Chair Katz shared that she used the program for the first time this past
summer. She expressed appreciation and support for the program. She stated that
the District’s HHW webpage has an updated list of all accepted HHW items. She
discussed a few difficulties regarding CR&R’s phone and scheduling system. She
shared that she has received misinformation regarding the number of pickups per
program from CR&R representatives. She recommended for the District to ensure
that CR&R has the correct information for each program.
Mr. Carroll expressed appreciation for her suggestion. He asked Ms. Guzman if it
is possible to follow up with customers who have used the program.
Ms. Guzman stated that if the customer submits a request through GovOutreach,
then they will receive a survey regarding the service. She shared that most
customers who receive the survey will complete it and submit comments. She
noted that customers who schedule a pickup over the phone with CR&R are harder
to follow up with.
Mr. Carroll inquired about who receives the survey results.
Ms. Guzman stated that the results are sent to District staff. She thanked CAC
Vice Chair Katz for her feedback and noted that she will discuss the matter with
CR&R.
CAC Member Phil Marsh joined the meeting.
CAC Vice Chair Katz inquired about the 3% participation rate.
Ms. Guzman stated that the participation rate is based on households. She
reported that CR&R services about 23,000 households per week.
CAC Vice Chair Katz inquired about adding signage to the CR&R trash trucks to
advertise the program.
Ms. Guzman stated that the District can add signage to the trucks, but that it is
relatively small. She noted that the program has a lot of information that is difficult
to read on a moving truck.
CAC Member Marsh suggested sending out a postcard to all customers. He
shared that he will be calling CR&R in a few days to schedule an HHW pickup, and
that he will report his feedback to the District.
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Mr. Carroll suggested that CAC members share program information and their
experiences on their social media accounts.
CAC Member Lester inquired if the District could offer its customers a participation
rebate. She suggested offering participants a $10 discount.
Mr. Carroll expressed appreciation for CAC Member Lester’s suggestion. He
shared that, through the District’s Cart-to-Cart Outreach program, solid waste
customers who use their Organics Recycling Carts correctly are eligible to receive
a $25 gift card as a reward. He inquired about how much money the District spends
on gift cards.
Ms. Guzman stated that the District spends $100 per year on gift cards for the
Cart-to-Cart Outreach program.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District is unable to lower rates for certain customers,
but that it will look into offering gift cards to incentivize HHW participants.
CAC Member Lester suggested offering any type of reward or even a chance for
a reward for participation. She recommended that any customer who schedules a
pickup be given a chance to win a prize at the end of the year or each month. She
stated that it is very easy to schedule a pickup through the District’s GoCMSD app.
She shared that she would encourage other customers to use the app.
Mr. Carroll thanked CAC Member Lester for her recommendation and expressed
support for a reward system. He noted that the District will research her suggestion
further.
CAC Member Fields recommended offering participants a credit rather than a
discount. He stated that the look of the app has changed. He noted that customers
need to create a log in to schedule a large item pickup and inquired if this has
affected the District’s participation rate.
Ms. Guzman stated that the District can track requests through the app or submit
requests by calling CR&R directly. She shared that the District receives the number
of requests for large item pickups on a monthly or quarterly basis.
Management Analyst II, Gina Terraneo, stated that the app should not require
customers to log in to submit a request for a large item pickup. She noted that she
will research the matter.
CAC Vice Chair Katz suggested for the District to note on their HHW webpage that
requests can be submitted through the app.
CAC Member Gielow stated that she represents a portion of the population that is
less familiar with technology like the District’s app. She shared that she has been
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involved with local schools, which might be a good opportunity for teaching
students about HHW. She inquired if the District has pencils with their contact
information listed. She commented that the District advertises in areas that she is
not familiar with.
Ms. Guzman asked CAC Member Gielow where she receives her news and where
she suggests that the District advertises.
CAC Member Gielow stated that she reads her news from flyers, newspapers like
the Daily Pilot, and publications that are sent home with school children.
CAC Member Lester inquired if the District has tried to work with Costa Mesa TV.
She offered to help connect the District with Costa Mesa TV and the City of Costa
Mesa’s Costa Mesa Minute production.
Mr. Carroll shared that the District has had difficulty with getting information shared
on those two productions. He noted that the District will contact her for assistance.
CAC Member Gielow expressed support for CAC Member Lester’s
recommendation. She stated that the City of Costa Mesa might waive their
commercial fees since the District is offering a public benefit to residents.
CAC Vice Chair Katz expressed support for CAC Member Gielow’s suggestion of
connecting with local schoolteachers regarding HHW education. She
recommended adding the District’s HHW program information to their Battery
Recycling Program flyer.
There was no further discussion, and the CAC provided District staff with
recommendations for increasing program participation.
Action, Receive and File: 4. Large Item Collection Program
Recommendation: That the Citizen Advisory Committee makes recommendations for
increasing program participation by 5%.
Mr. Carroll shared that the Large Item Collection Program is one of the District’s
most successful programs. He stated that the District is the only organization in
Orange County that offers their solid waste customers the opportunity to dispose
of up to 10 large items for collection three times a year. He noted that the District
is seeking recommendations for increasing program participation by 5%.
Ms. Guzman described the Large Item Collection Program and noted that the
program does not accept items that exceed eight feet by four feet or 150 pounds.
She discussed items that are not eligible for this program, such as, tires, car
bodies, concrete, building materials, oils and chemicals. She presented the chart
in the staff report that depicts program data since 2015. She stated that the
program experiences a 5% participation rate per year, but the overall participation
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rate is about 23%. She reported that the participation rate is higher than the HHW
program, but still relatively low for the District’s service area.
CAC Member Gielow inquired if the District picks up mattresses.
Ms. Guzman confirmed that the District accepts mattresses as a piece of furniture.
She noted that furniture cannot exceed the size limitations.
CAC Member Gielow recommended advertising the program at the Costa Mesa
Senior Center.
CAC Member Lester expressed support for CAC Member Gielow’s
recommendation. She offered to share the District’s program flyer with the Costa
Mesa Senior Center Board.
CAC Member Fields recommended advertising the program with trash cart
hangers.
Ms. Guzman expressed support and thanked CAC Member Fields for his
recommendation.
There was no further discussion, and the CAC provided District staff with
recommendations for increasing program participation.
Action, Discussion: 5. Internal Audit of District’s Sanitary Sewer Management Plan
(SSMP) Update
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files this report.
Mr. Carroll provided report details. He stated that an internal audit of the District’s
Sewer System Management Plan (SSMP) is required by the State Water Regional
Control Board (SWRCB) every two years. Although the audit can be performed
internally, he shared that the District hires a consultant to objectively audit the
SSMP. He reported that the District completed their bidding process and awarded
the contract to the lowest bidder, EEC Environmental. He noted that the audit will
begin in a few days, and that District staff will have a report for the CAC at their
January meeting.
CAC Member Fields inquired if EEC Environmental will be performing a financial
and operational audit of the SSMP.
Mr. Carroll stated that it will not be a financial audit. He shared that EEC
Environmental will investigate all SWRCB wastewater discharge requirements as
well as the sewer system.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
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C. CLOSING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Committee Member & Staff Comments
CAC Chair Carey reported that he will be stepping down from the CAC due to his
employment with CR&R. He stated that he is resigning to eliminate any perception
of a possible conflict of interest. He shared that he has enjoyed his time on the
CAC, and that he values the CAC’s support and input. He added that he is looking
forward to working with the District through his employment capacity. He stated
that he will be handing over his duties as CAC Chair to CAC Vice Chair Katz.
CAC Member Gielow thanked CAC Chair Carey for his service.
Mr. Carroll stated that he respects CAC Chair Carey’s decision. He noted that there
is no conflict according to the District’s legal counsel but understands that there
may be a perception of conflict. He inquired if the CAC must appoint a new CAC
Chair.
Ms. Middenway stated that the CAC Vice Chair will assume the position of CAC
Chair, and the CAC will have to appoint a new Vice Chair.
CAC Chair Carey stated that District staff has permission to share his personal
contact information with any CAC member.
CAC Member Lester expressed appreciation for CAC Chair Carey and shared that
she is disappointed that he is resigning but commends him for his decision. She
confirmed that CAC Chair Carey is not legally required to step down from his
position. She stated that he sets a good example for all elected officials. Ms. Lester
commented that just because you can do something does not mean you should.
She thanked him for his service.
CAC Member Fields expressed agreement with CAC Member Lester’s statement
and offered his respect for CAC Chair Carey.
CAC Member Lester stated that, at the last CAC meeting, she commented about
the Board of Directors not following procedures for teleconferenced meetings. She
shared that Mr. Carroll informed her about an executive order by the Governor that
allows for teleconferenced meetings. She clarified that the Board is following
procedures correctly. She expressed congratulations to Director Perry for being
re-elected to the Board and thanked President Ferryman for his 30+ years of
dedicated service to the District and the community.
CAC Chair Carey expressed agreement with CAC Member Lester’s statement.
There was no further discussion.
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Procedural: 2. Adjournment
CAC Chair Carey adjourned the meeting at 6:58 P.M.
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Elodie Katz
Citizens Advisory Committee Chair