Minutes - CAC - 2020-07-15
COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
JULY 15, 2020
(TELECONFERENCE MEETING VIA ZOOM)
NOTE: THIS MEETING WAS CONDUCTED UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 54952.2 AND THE GOVERNOR’S EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN EFFECT WAIVING SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS
OF THAT SECTION.
CAC Members present
Daniel Baume, Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner, Elodie Katz,
Sue Lester, Phil Marsh, Andrew Nielson, Judy Takaya
CAC Members absent
Monte Fields
Board Members present
Arlene Schafer, Art Perry
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Noelani Middenway (District Clerk & Public
Information Officer), Gina Terraneo (Management Analyst II), Nabila Guzman
(Management Analyst)
Others present
Joseph Jenkins (EEC Environmental)
Meeting called to order at 6:01 P.M.
A. OPENING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Call to Order
CAC Chair Carey called the meeting to order at 6:01 P.M.
Procedural: 2. Roll Call
District Clerk & Public Information Officer, Noelani Middenway, conducted roll
call. She noted that Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) Members Baume,
Carey, Fernández, Gielow, Greiner, Katz, Lester, and Takaya were present while
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CAC Member Fields was not present. CAC Member Nielson arrived at 6:02 P.M.,
and CAC Member Marsh arrived at 6:15 P.M.
CAC Chair Carey recognized Board President Ferryman’s birthday.
Procedural: 3. Public Comments - Speakers will be limited to three minutes. The three
minutes per speaker time allotted may be extended for good cause by a majority vote of
the committee.
CAC Chair Carey opened public comments.
Seeing no members of the public wishing to speak, CAC Chair Carey closed
public comments.
B. ITEMS
Action, Receive and File: 1. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting
Minutes of May 13, 2020
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting minutes
as presented.
CAC Chair Carey presented the CAC meeting minutes of May 13, 2020 and
welcomed discussion or a motion.
Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of May 13,
2020.
Motion by Daniel Baume, second by Andrew Nielson.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 7-0-2-2
Ayes: Daniel Baume, Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Seth Greiner, Elodie Katz,
Andrew Nielson, Judy Takaya
No: None
Abstain: Sue Lester, Judy Gielow
Not Present: Monte Fields, Phil Marsh
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 2. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting
Minutes of May 20, 2020
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting minutes
as presented.
CAC Chair Carey presented the CAC meeting minutes of May 20, 2020 and
welcomed discussion or a motion.
Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of May 20,
2020.
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Motion by Judy Gielow, second by Daniel Baume.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 9-0-0-2
Ayes: Daniel Baume, Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner,
Elodie Katz, Sue Lester, Andrew Nielson, Judy Takaya
No: None
Abstain: None
Not Present: Monte Fields, Phil Marsh
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 3. Overview of June 22, 2020 Board of Directors Meeting
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files the report.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, provided a brief overview of the June 22, 2020
Board of Directors Meeting. He discussed the Board’s decision to vote for
Secretary Schafer for Seat C of the Southern Network of the California Special
Districts Association (CSDA). He provided details about CSDA networks. He
offered congratulations to Secretary Schafer for winning Seat C.
CAC Members congratulated Secretary Schafer on her win.
CAC Member Lester commented on the Attorney’s Reports. She acknowledged
Mr. Carroll for declining his Board-approved salary increase of 3.4%. She
recognized him for his selflessness, integrity, and inspiration as a leader and his
ability to lead by example.
Mr. Carroll thanked CAC Member Lester for her comment.
CAC Members recognized Mr. Carroll for his decision.
Mr. Carroll recognized other city managers and government leaders who have
declined salary increases. He expressed gratitude for his current position and the
organization, as well as his support for the Board of Directors. He stated that he
is available to answer any additional questions regarding the June 22, 2020
Board of Directors meeting.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action: 4. Consider Approving FY 2020-21 Goals and Objectives Schedule
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the list of goals and
objectives for FY 2020-21.
CAC Chair Carey stated that he met remotely with Mr. Carroll and Board Vice
President Ooten on June 18, 2020 to review the FY 2020-21 Goals and
Objectives Schedule.
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Mr. Carroll provide details regarding the CAC’s FY 2020-21 Goals and Objectives
Schedule. He stated that, according to the CAC Handbook, the CAC Chairperson
meets once a year with the General Manager and Board President to discuss
CAC goals and objectives. He noted that the proposed schedule has been
shared with the Board. He commented that each item on the schedule complies
with the District’s 2020-25 Strategic Plan. He welcomed discussion regarding
adding more topics to the schedule.
CAC Chair Carey and CAC Member Lester expressed support for the list of
topics and schedule.
CAC Member Lester suggested including a topic regarding community recycling
options and compliance, since the Orange Coast College (OCC) Recycling
Center is closed due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
CAC Member Baume expressed support for the list and schedule.
CAC Vice Chair Katz expressed support for the specific action items associated
with each month of the schedule.
CAC Member Nielson discussed the goals and objectives listed for January
2021. He inquired if the CAC will be responsible for establishing relationships
with local business.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District hopes to have the CAC interact with the
community and attend future events to share District information. He noted that
the January 2021 discussion topic is meant to evaluate how the CAC can be
liaisons with the public on behalf of the District.
CAC Chair Carey inquired if the Costa Mesa-Newport Harbor Lions Club Fish Fry
is taking place this year.
Secretary Schafer, CAC Member Baume and CAC Member Marsh confirmed
that the Fish Fry is cancelled.
Mr. Carroll commented that he does not anticipate any public events to take
place for the remainder of the year.
Director Perry expressed support for CAC Member Lester’s suggestion and
recommended including it in the CAC’s September meeting.
Secretary Schafer recommended having the CAC attend the District’s annual
open house event.
Mr. Carroll noted that he does not anticipate hosting the District’s annual open
house event due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
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CAC Member Nielson inquired if recyclables are currently being sorted.
Mr. Carroll confirmed that recyclables are not being sorted due to the COVID-19
pandemic. He noted that CR&R Environmental Services is unable to open their
recycling sorting facility due to social distancing guidelines. He shared that CR&R
is recycling organic waste at their Anaerobic Digestion Facility.
CAC Member Baume suggested repurposing the funds for the District’s annual
open house to host five to ten-minute tours of the District’s facilities conducted by
the CAC members. He recommended sharing the tours on the District’s
Facebook page.
Mr. Carroll inquired if CAC Member Baume is suggesting virtual tours.
CAC Member Baume confirmed that the tours would be virtual and would
highlight different areas within the District’s facilities.
CAC Chair Carey recommended including the Board members in the virtual
tours.
CAC Member Lester inquired about publishing a video through the City of Costa
Mesa’s television channel which educates residents and businesses on how they
can help protect the environment.
Mr. Carroll accepted both suggestions and noted that he will discuss them with
District staff.
Director Perry expressed support for CAC Member Lester’s suggestion and
recommended including District information in the City of Costa Mesa’s Costa
Mesa Minute production.
Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee’s list of goals and
objectives for FY 2020-21.
Motion by Sue Lester, second by Phil Marsh.
Final Resolution: Motion carries 10-0-0-1
Ayes: Daniel Baume, Mike Carey, Dickie Fernández, Judy Gielow, Seth Greiner,
Elodie Katz, Sue Lester, Phil Marsh, Andrew Nielson, Judy Takaya
No: None
Abstain: None
Not Present: Monte Fields
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action, Receive and File: 5. CMSD Waste Composition Review 2019
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives and files the report.
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Management Analyst I, Nabila Guzman, provided report details. She stated that
the District had a diversion rate of 60.51% for fiscal year 2018-2019. She noted
that most of the recycling recorded consisted of green waste. She shared that the
District hired Mike Balliet Consulting to perform a waste composition study on the
District’s Mixed Waste Carts. She reviewed how the studies are conducted. She
stated that based on the study, organic waste comprises approximately 25% of
waste found in Mixed Waste carts, while green waste comprises approximately
15% of the waste found. She added that approximately 5,007.18 tons of green
waste was landfilled rather than recycled. She stated that the District is
concerned with the high percentage of tonnages found in the Mixed Waste Carts.
She highlighted that green waste found in the Mixed Waste Carts is too
contaminated to be recycled and is used as Alternative Daily Cover (ADC) at
landfills. She reviewed the mandates associated with AB 1594. She emphasized
the effects of placing green waste in Mixed Waste Carts on the District’s goal of
75% diversion from landfills. She shared that the District has a goal of reducing
the contamination of its Mixed Waste Carts by 10%. She presented District staff’s
current measures to reduce contamination.
Mr. Carroll welcomed discussion and suggestions from the CAC on how to
decrease contamination.
CAC Member Greiner inquired about differences between the two available trash
carts.
Ms. Guzman stated that the Organics Cart accepts green and food waste, while
the Mixed Waste Cart accepts trash and recyclables such as cardboard, cans,
bottles, and glass. She noted that the report lists specific types of trash that were
analyzed.
CAC Member Greiner inquired if residents are required to place yard waste in
their Organics Cart.
Ms. Guzman confirmed his statement and noted that the District’s service
includes 2 Organics Carts and 2 Mixed Waste Carts for each customer. She
added that customers may request additional carts through CR&R for an extra $9
per month per cart. She stated that customers who produce a large amount of
green waste can place their excess waste in bags and request a Large Item
Pickup.
CAC Member Greiner stated that this policy is not well understood in his
neighborhood. He noted that he has witnessed residents place green waste in
their Mixed Waste Carts due to their Organics Carts being too small.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District’s communications consultant, Tripepi Smith, is
assisting the District with informing customers about how to properly dispose of
green waste.
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CAC Chair Carey stated that he was surprised to see a large amount of organic
waste found in the Mixed Waste Carts from the photos provided in the staff
report.
CAC Member Fernández recognized the District for enforcing the State
mandates regarding solid waste. He stated that his neighborhood utilizes two
dumpsters with one accepting mixed waste and recycles and another for green
waste. He noted that he has observed his local community disposing of their
waste incorrectly. He suggested improving the cart labels and color-coding the
carts to increase awareness.
Mr. Carroll and Ms. Guzman expressed support for exploring CAC Member
Fernández’s suggestion with CR&R.
CAC Member Lester expressed recognition for the District’s efforts on educating
its customers how to dispose of their waste correctly. She stated that the COVID-
19 pandemic has affected the District’s contamination rates due to more people
staying home and generating more waste.
CAC Member Greiner expressed support for CAC Member Lester’s observation
and noted that the increase in packaging waste and cardboard consumes a large
amount of space in the trash carts, especially if a cardboard box is not broken
down properly.
Secretary Schafer recommended advertising the District’s Large Item Collection
Program in the District newsletter.
CAC Member Gielow requested clarification on accepted types of green waste.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District will provide CAC Member Gielow with
information on the Organics Recycling Program. He stated that any waste that is
considered to have once been alive can be placed in the Organics Cart, such as
branches, leaves, and anything that is edible.
CAC Member Marsh commented about his homeowner’s association (HOA),
which is not eligible for the District’s Organics Recycling Program. He noted that
the landscapers place yard waste in any available Mixed Waste Cart. He
suggested implementing a green waste dumpster at locations that do not have
Organics Carts. He inquired about golf courses and their process for disposing of
green waste.
CAC Chair Carey commented that golf courses are mandated to properly
dispose of their green waste.
CAC Member Baume expressed concern for apartment complexes that utilize
trash and recycling dumpsters. He noted that residents of apartment complexes
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are unaware of responsible recycling practices and that apartment complexes
are not being held accountable.
Mr. Carroll stated that the District hopes to provide service for all multi-family
units. He asked which waste hauler services CAC Member Baume’s apartment
complex.
CAC Member Baume stated that he is unfamiliar with who services his apartment
complex.
Ms. Guzman confirmed that the District does not service CAC Member Baume’s
apartment complex or any multi-family unit with dumpsters.
CAC Member Lester stated that the District services all single-family residential
homes, while the majority of multi-family units are serviced by waste haulers
approved by the City of Costa Mesa.
CAC Chair Carey noted that businesses within the City of Costa Mesa are also
serviced by waste haulers approved by the City.
CAC Vice Chair Katz expressed support for adding signage to the Organics
Carts. She noted that she has witnessed other residents placing excess green
waste in their Mixed Waste Carts. She recommended notifying the District’s solid
waste customers that their service includes two Organics Carts. She suggested
that the District provide organic waste bins at local community events so
customers can dispose of their food waste separately.
Mr. Carroll shared that, two years ago, the District provided Organics Carts for
the Fish Fry event, and the food waste was highly contaminated. He suggested
contacting Waste Management to discuss how they discourage customers from
contaminating organic waste bins at events.
CAC Vice Chair Katz inquired about developing a school program about organic
waste to educate children about how to dispose of food waste properly.
Mr. Carroll commented that the District has a Zero Waste lunch program. He
noted that the District is currently revising their curriculum to encourage teachers
and students to retain best recycling practices.
CAC Member Fernández stated that single-family residential homes in HOAs
have an option to contract with the District’s waste hauler or another waste
hauler approved by the City. He noted that some HOAs do not have the physical
space for a green waste dumpster.
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Mr. Carroll stated that the District notifies all new developments within the City of
Costa Mesa with a will serve letter regarding the assurance of physical space for
residential trash carts.
Director Perry recommended that CR&R provides a few 90-gallon Organics Carts
to HOA residential tracts so that gardeners can recycle green waste.
Mr. Carroll thanked the CAC for their comments.
CAC Chair Carey suggested using the phrase “Organics Carts” rather than
“green waste” and “yard waste” to eliminate confusion.
There was no further discussion, and the report was received.
Action: 6. CMSD’s Fats Oil Grease (FOG) Annual Assessment
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee receives the presentation from
Joe Jenkins, of EEC Environmental, about the District’s FOG Program and provide input
to staff.
Mr. Carroll stated that fats, oils, and grease (FOG) comprise one of the biggest
culprits for causing sanitary sewer overflows (SSOs). He shared that, when
poured down a drain, FOG will stick to the pipes and form a buildup that clogs
the pipe. He noted that State law requires all sanitary agencies to have a FOG
Control Program. He stated that food service establishments (FSE) within the
District’s service area are responsible for participating in the FOG Control
Program, which may require some FSEs to install a grease interceptor or grease
trap. He shared that the District hired EEC Environmental to enforce the FOG
Control Program and to connect with the FSEs to ensure compliance. He
discussed a few methods for District residents to recycle their FOG. He stated
that residents can place their FOG in a compostable bag and place it in their
Organics Cart. He shared that there is a FOG drop-off station at the OCC
Recycling Center. He noted that the OCC Recycling Center is currently closed
due to the COVID-19 pandemic. He introduced Joe Jenkins of EEC
Environmental.
Mr. Jenkins discussed FOG program activities. He stated that EEC performs a
risk-based FSE inspection and prioritization of activities to focus the District’s
resources on FSEs that discharge a significant amount of FOG in the sewer
system. He shared that, during the inspections, EEC provides FSEs with FOG
Control Program education and outreach materials. He noted that some FSEs
require additional enforcement actions, so EEC will send enforcement letters and
occasionally issue fines. He stated that EEC stores all FSE inspection data and
information in a centralized access database. He added that EEC assists the
District in reviewing plans for new FSEs and FSE remodels. He noted that EEC
assists with FOG source characterization and review of enhanced maintenance
location (EML) reductions. He discussed how EEC develops and manages their
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FSE inventory, which involves coordinating with the Orange County Health Care
Agency and the Cities of Costa Mesa and Newport Beach. He noted that, since
January 2017, EEC has identified 91 new FSEs. He reviewed the inspection
process, which includes identifying the presence of high-risk cooking equipment,
the FSE’s location in proximity to EMLs, grease interceptors, and the best
management practices for the FSE. He noted that an EML is an area of the
sewer system that the District cleans more frequently than annually. He shared
that there are currently 730 FSEs in EEC’s database. He added that EEC
expects the number of FSEs to decrease dramatically due to the misidentification
of grocery stores as FSEs and the economic strain due to the COVID-19
pandemic. He stated that EEC inspects 55 FSEs on a quarterly basis, 85 FSEs
on a semi-annual basis, 240 FSEs on an annual basis, and 350 FSEs on a bi-
annual basis. He noted that the inspection rates are adjusted based on an FSE’s
compliance history, maintenance observations, and field observations, which
include identifying illicit activities, private SSOs, and restricted effluent. He
presented examples of inspection frequencies and modifications to a major
breakfast chain and a small shopping center. He stated that, in 2011, there were
97 EML locations, which the District has reduced to 18 through continued
rehabilitation of the sewer line, cleaning observations, and FOG source control.
He presented specific examples of EML locations and the associated FOG
discharge mitigation efforts. He reviewed key program trends regarding SSOs
and FOG-related SSOs. He discussed FOG program recommendations, which
include the continuation of risk-based analysis for FSE inspection prioritization,
EML reduction and source investigation, and FSE inspections and enforcement.
CAC Chair Carey and CAC Member Lester thanked Mr. Jenkins for his
presentation.
There was no further discussion.
C. CLOSING ITEMS
Procedural: 1. Committee Member & Staff Comments
CAC Member Lester expressed her condolences to Board President Ferryman
on the recent passing of his son, Ryan Ferryman. She requested to adjourn the
meeting in memory of Ryan Ferryman.
CAC Member Marsh expressed his support for CAC Member Lester’s comment.
CAC Member Fernández inquired about the Sewer Master Plan Update agenda
item that was postponed during the CAC meeting on May 13, 2020.
Mr. Carroll noted that District staff will add that item to a future CAC meeting for
discussion.
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There was no further discussion.
Procedural: 2. Adjournment
CAC Chair Carey adjourned the meeting at 7:23 P.M. in honor and memoriam of
Ryan Ferryman.
Mike Carey
Citizens Advisory Committee Chair