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COSTA MESA SANITARY DISTRICT
MINUTES OF CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
JUNE 20,2018
Members present
Andrew Nielson, Elodie Katz, Jana Oak, Mike Carey, Mike Mcllroy, Monte Fields, Phil
Marsh, Sue Lester, Tom Brenneman
Members absent
Albert Graham, Jr., Shayne Smith
Board of Directors present
Arlene Schafer
Staff present
Scott Carroll (General Manager), Alan Burns (District Counsel), Noelani
Middenway (District Clerk)
Others present
Deborah Diep (Cal State Fullerton Center for Demographic Research), Jim
Mosher (resident)
Meeting called to order at 6:04 P.M.
A. Opening Items
Procedural: 1. Call to Order
Chairman Carey called the meeting to order at 6:04 P.M.
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Procedural: 2. Roll Call - (If absences occur, consider whether to deem those absences
excused based on facts presented for the absence — such determination shall be the
permission required by law.)
District Clerk, Noelani Middenway, conducted roll call and noted that Andrew
Nielson, Elodie Katz, Mike Carey, Mike Mcllroy, Phil Marsh, Sue Lester, and Tom
Brenneman were present.
B. Public Comments
Procedural 1: Public Comments - This time has been set aside for persons in the
audience to make comments on items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Costa
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Mesa Sanitary District that are not listed on this agenda. Members of the public will
have the opportunity to address the Board of Directors and Citizens Advisory
Committee about all other items on this agenda at the time those items are considered.
Under the provisions of the Brown Act, the Board of Directors and Citizens Advisory
Committee are prohibited from taking action on oral requests but may refer the matter to
staff or to a subsequent meeting. The Board of Directors will respond after public
comment has been received. Please state your name. Each speaker will be limited to
four(4) continuous minutes.
Chairman Carey opened public comments.
Jim Mosher, a resident, provided public comments. He noted that based on the
handout provided, the meeting seems to have been expected to be a joint
meeting between the Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC) and the Board of
Directors. Mr. Mosher noted that the meeting was not noticed as a joint meeting
and he encouraged the CAC to provide the District with feedback regarding their
website.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Carey closed public comments.
C. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes
Action: 1. Approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of May 15,
2018
Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting minutes
as presented.
Chairman Carey presented the meeting minutes for May 15, 2018.
CAC Member, Sue Lester, commented that it would be helpful if the minutes
identified the CAC Members who are providing comments for the purposes of
clarity and tracking. Ms. Lester added that it may be helpful for CAC Members to
state their name before commenting in order to assist staff in recording the
minutes.
Motion: To approve the Citizens Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes of May 15,
2018 as presented.
Motion by Andrew Nielson, second by Phil Marsh.
Final Resolution: Motion Carries 7-0-4
Aye: Andrew Nielson, Elodie Katz, Mike Carey, Mike Mcllroy, Phil Marsh, Sue
Lester, Tom Brenneman
Not Present: Albert Graham, Jr., Jana Oak, Monte Fields, Shayne Smith
There was no further discussion.
Action: 2. Approve the Minutes of the Joint Board of Directors and Citizens
Advisory Committee Special Meeting of May 31, 2018
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Recommendation: That the Citizens Advisory Committee approves the meeting minutes
as presented.
Chairman Carey presented the meeting minutes for May 31, 2018.
Motion: To approve the Joint Board of Directors and Citizens Advisory
Committee Special Meeting of May 31, 2018 as presented.
Motion by Sue Lester, second by Andrew Nielson.
Final Resolution: Motion Carries 7-0-4
Aye: Andrew Nielson, Elodie Katz, Mike Carey, Mike Mcllroy, Phil Marsh, Sue
Lester, Tom Brenneman
Not Present: Albert Graham, Jr., Jana Oak, Monte Fields, Shayne Smith
There was no discussion on this item.
CAC Member, Monte Fields, entered the meeting at 6:10 P.M.
CAC Member, Jana Oak, entered the meeting at 6:11 P.M.
D. Public Hearing
Procedural: 1. Open Public Hearing
Chairman Carey opened the public hearing and invited demographer, Deborah
Diep of the Center for Demographic Research, to provide a presentation.
Presentation: 2. Receive a Presentation from Demographer, Deborah Diep, Director of
Center for Demographic Research, on the Proposed Maps and Receive Input
Regarding Potential Transition to By-District Elections
Ms. Diep prefaced her presentation by explaining that the District is undertaking
this districting process because the District received a letter alleging that voter
dilution and racially polarized voting were occurring in the District due to its District at-
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lar a election system. She noted that theenter g y t ct h as opted to a safe harbor
process to determine what steps should be taken to address the issues raised in
the letter. Ms. Diep provided an overview of the districting process timeline,
including the required public hearings. She explained that the CAC will be
reviewing and discussing the proposed district maps and standardized versions
of those maps. Ms. Diep noted that it is proposed that the election sequencing
coincide with the existing staggered terms of the current Board of Directors. She
noted that if adopted, the new divisions would take effect in the 2020 election
cycle, where 2 divisions would be up for election in 2020 and 3 divisions would
be up for election in 2022. Ms. Diep provided an overview of each of the
proposed district maps (A through F) and shared the following information:
proposed map A has a population spread of 8.34%, B has a population spread of
5%, C has a population spread of 3.28%, D has a population spread of 33.11%
(which is considered not viable), E has a population spread of 12.58% (but due to
its proximity to the 10% threshold, the Center for Demographic Research was
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directed to create a revision of map E to make it viable), F has a population
spread of 4.12%, and the revision to map E has a population spread of 3.55%.
She then discussed redistricting criteria in order to assist the CAC in assessing
and prioritizing the proposed maps. Ms. Diep proposed methods of scoring the
maps based on their population spread, geography, compactness, and
communities of interest.
Procedural: 3. Receive Comments
CAC Member, Monte Fields, inquired about the significance of the District's pump
station locations in regards to assessing the maps.
CAC Member, Sue Lester, commented that the pump station locations may have
been included in an effort to share information and perhaps to find out if they
were evenly distributed throughout the service area. She noted that the pump
stations are located in areas where they are needed for operational purposes.
Ms. Lester then inquired whether the Board of Directors can reject the CAC's
recommended division map.
Ms. Diep responded that the Board of Directors may accept the CAC's
recommendation or select another action. She noted that due to the public
hearing timeline, no new proposed maps would be submitted without the CAC
having the opportunity to review, consider, or modify them.
Ms. Lester explained that the City of Costa Mesa went through a similar process
to receive a recommended districting map from a committee. She noted that after
the City Council received the committee and staffs recommendation, a Council
Member submitted a proposed map at the last minute and the City Council voted
on and approved the Council Member's map.
District Counsel, Alan Burns, commented that the Board of Directors will select
one of the maps that the CAC discusses and reviews.
Ms. Diep encouraged the CAC to discuss proposed revisions tonight, if possible,
• due to the compressed timeline of the process.
CAC Member, Elodie Katz, inquired whether it would be optimal to have a Latino
majority in one of the divisions in order to increase their representation.
Mr. Burns noted that the ethnic share of division populations is a factor that can
be considered.
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Ms. Diep added that race should not be the only factor considered. She
emphasized the importance of achieving near-equal population within each
division.
Ms. Lester commented that she liked proposed map C because it has a low
population spread of 3.28% and Division 5 contains a Hispanic/Latino Citizen
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Voting Age Population (CVAP) majority. She commented that map C was the
strongest proposed map in its current state. Ms. Lester indicated concern in
regards to the accuracy of the population data provided, since it is based upon
census data that is collected once every 10 years. She recommended that the
division numbers be modified so that Division 1 begins either in the North or
South of the service area.
CAC Member, Andrew Nielson, indicated agreement with Ms. Lester. He noted
that map B is similar to map C. Mr. Nielson requested that all of the maps be
displayed on the screen for review by the CAC.
Ms. Diep noted that the division numbering may change in order to reflect the
staggered elections.
Mr. Nielson commented that plan E has the most irregular boundaries.
CAC Member, Monte Fields, inquired about the CAC's views on how owner-
occupied (as opposed to renter-occupied) areas are divided on the proposed
maps.
Ms. Katz noted that she made some considerations of owner-occupied and
renter-occupied areas in her proposed map. She also noted that
multifamily residences do not receive trash collection service from the District,
which is also a consideration.
CAC Member, Jana Oak, inquired about the location of the Orange County
Fairgrounds in map C.
Ms. Lester commented that she did not consider owner-occupied versus renter-
occupied areas in her assessment. She commented that all residents should
have equal opportunities for representation, whether or not they receive District
services.
Mr. Nielson asked if anyone sees a community of interest that is being divided in
maps B or C.
Ms. Oak commented that map B's divisions align with the geography of the city.
Discussion followed regarding the division of businesses and neighborhoods in
maps B and C.
CAC Member, Tom Brenneman, commented that he prefers map B over map C
because map C divides up the east side. He commented that he attempted to
keep neighborhoods, areas with concentrations of ethnic populations, and
business centers together in his proposed map (A). He indicated that if he had to
choose one of the maps, he would choose map B.
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Mr. Nielson commented that based on the allegations in the letter received by the
District, it may be worthwhile to attempt to create a minority majority district. He
noted that this seems to be achieved by maps B and C. Mr. Nielson indicated
that he prefers maps B and C.
Mr. Fields asked if any other CAC Members would like to share their reasoning
for how they created their proposed maps.
Ms. Lester noted that she understands the idea of wanting to
keep neighborhoods together, but noted that there are also advantages to
splitting neighborhoods into different divisions.
Chairman Carey indicated that he likes map B due to its symmetry and the
division along Newport Boulevard.
Mr. Fields asked if this districting process will impact trash collection routes.
General Manager, Scott Carroll, noted that it will not impact trash collection
routes or service operations.
Mr. Nielson asked if Ms. Diep could address election sequencing and how that
would impact the 2020 election.
Ms. Diep noted that Vice President Ferryman and Director Perry are up for
election in 2020. She noted that if they reside in different districts, it is likely that
those 2 districts would be the first districts that are up for election in 2020.
Consequently, she explained that the remaining 3 districts would be up for
election in 2022. Ms. Diep noted that if two or more Board Members resided in
the same district at the time that the district was up for election, they would have
to run against each other.
Ms. Lester commented that the locations of the current Board Members'
residences should not be taken into consideration when assessing and
recommending the district map.
Chairman Carey asked if the CAC could modify the division numbers within their
recommended map.
Ms. Diep noted that the CAC can make suggestions for the division numbers, but
she noted that the Board of Directors and staff may decide to assign numbers to
the divisions based on the election sequencing. She explained that it is common
to assign odd and even numbers to the divisions, based on which divisions are
up for election in a given year.
Discussion followed regarding the assignment of division numbers.
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Ms. Lester commented that she likes the population breakdown associated with
map C, but noted that she likes the layout of map B. She inquired if adjustments
can be made to map B in order to reduce the population spread.
Ms. Katz commented that she altered map B in order reduce the population
spread and that is how she created map C.
Ms. Diep noted that district boundaries may be re-assessed or adjusted after the
next decennial census.
Mr. Brenneman and Mr. Nielson inquired whether the CAC has a consensus with
map B.
Ms. Lester asked when the deadline for proposing revisions to any of the maps
is.
Ms. Diep suggested that the CAC assess the map of choice (B) now and
determine what modifications may need to be made.
Discussion followed regarding the population spread within map B, particularly
the divisions with the highest variance from the target population (1 and 4).
Mr. Nielson exited the meeting at 7:12 P.M.
For demonstration purposes, Ms. Diep modified map B according to the CAC's
direction in order to attempt to reduce the variance.
Discussion followed regarding whether it is worth modifying map B to achieve a
reduced variance, as opposed to retaining the maps geographical divisions and
keeping communities of interest intact.
Chairman Carey noted that the CAC did not indicate support for modifying map
B.
Mr. Brenneman asked how the District has distributed information about the
districting process to the public.
Chairman Carey noted that the information is available online on the District's
website.
Mr. Carroll shared that the District is publicizing the process through the website,
social media, and newspaper media coverage.
Ms. Lester suggested that the District work with the City of Costa Mesa to include
the districting information in the Costa Mesa Minute.
The CAC indicated support for moving forward with map B as is.
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Ms. Lester suggested that division 4 be changed to 1 and division 3 be changed
to 2, in order to assign even numbered divisions to the Board Members that will
be up for election in 2020.
Ms. Diep noted that none of the division numbers will be changed until the Board
of Directors approve a map.
Chairman Carey noted that the CAC will gather further public input and prepare
to make their recommendation.
Chairman Carey opened public comments.
Jim Mosher, a resident, provided comments. He indicated that he agrees with
Ms. Lester's comment that the residences of the current Board Members should
not be considered in assessing the proposed maps. Additionally, Mr. Mosher
commented that the CAC should make recommendations regarding the division
numbers, regardless of which Board Members will be up for election in 2020. He
suggested that the CAC introduce the idea of term limits for the District's Board of
Directors. Mr. Mosher commented that sewer and trash districts are primarily
function-oriented, which seems more compatible with an at-large election
system. He indicated that map B is a good map, and noted that it may not be
necessary to strive for a reduced variance since the population data is based
upon 2010 census data that may not be currently accurate. Lastly, Mr.
Mosher suggested utilizing the method of limited voting rather than changing
from an at-large to by-district election system.
Mr. Burns noted that the District is being threatened with a lawsuit, which may be
lost if the District does not adopt the by-district election method. Additionally, he
noted that the Orange County Registrar indicated that the limited voting method
is not certified for use in California.
Ms. Diep added that the District does not have enough time to enact the
districting process and establish divisions prior to the 2018 elections. She added
that although the CAC indicated support for map B, the District is still required to
hold 2 public hearings on the matter.
Ms. Lester clarified that in order to vote within a division, one must live in that
division. Additionally, she asked if term limits are associated with the current
discussion about the districting process.
Ms. Diep noted that the discussion of term limits is not included in the districting
process, but she noted that the CAC can take it up for discussion as a separate
matter.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Carey closed public comments.
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Procedural: 4. Close the Public Hearing
Chairman Carey closed the public hearing.
E. Closing Items
Procedural 1: Oral Communications & Director Comments
Ms. Lester congratulated the District on its 7th consecutive Certificate of
Excellence in Financial Reporting from the Government Finance Officers
Association (GFOA). Additionally, she commented that the public meeting
agendas and minutes are available in two places on the District's website.
Ms. Katz asked if the CAC should continue reviewing all of the proposed maps.
Ms. Diep suggested that the CAC look at the 5 viable maps (A, B, C, F, E
revision), excluding maps D and E.
Discussion followed regarding dividing into districts and making districting
information available to the public.
Procedural: 2. Adjourn
Chairman Carey adjourned the meeting at 7:40 P.M.
Mike Carey
Citizens Advisory Committee Cha'